Teedubya getting after it

Deberg_1990 · 09-12-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

if i went to this fat ****'s social media company and threw a bunch of f words at him I wonder what his response back would be. I bet you even worse than that Chiefs twitter intern.

I'm not defending the Chiefs here, but this turd is exactly that, a turd. He has a point, but he did it in such a troll fashion that he looks worse than the Chiefs counter imo

Its just the age we live in. Every joe blow fanboy feels that just because he has a “internet voice” hes ready to become a CEO.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-12-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Its just the age we live in. Every joe blow fanboy feels that just because he has a “internet voice” hes ready to become a CEO.

Um, I don't think so. I don't think that people voicing their opinions about the business practices, right or wrong, of multi-national corporate conglomerates are wanting the CEO's job. They want a change in business practices.

In the Chiefs case, their organization should be more than willing to listen, especially considering 40 years of complete and utter failure.

htismaqe · 09-12-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, I don't think so. I don't think that people voicing their opinions about the business practices, right or wrong, of multi-national corporate conglomerates are wanting the CEO's job. They want a change in business practices.

In the Chiefs case, their organization should be more than willing to listen, especially considering 40 years of complete and utter failure.

This.

Deberg_1990 · 09-12-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, I don't think so. I don't think that people voicing their opinions about the business practices, right or wrong, of multi-national corporate conglomerates are wanting the CEO's job. They want a change in business practices.
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Then I say again, if you want change or don’t like the product, organize the masses to stop spending money on it. Isnt that how it works in Hollywood too?

I know nothing about this guy. Is he a season ticket holder?

durtyrute · 09-12-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Then I say again, if you want change or don’t like the product, organize the masses to stop spending money on it. Isnt that how it works in Hollywood too?

I know nothing about this guy. Is he a season ticket holder?

No

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-12-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Then I say again, if you want change or don’t like the product, organize the masses to stop spending money on it.

Yeah, right. How long has it been since you lived in Kansas City? How easy do you think it would be to change the football culture created by Carl Peterson and Marty Schottemheimer? What alternative are you going to give people when it's 10 degrees outside on Sunday?

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Isnt that how it works in Hollywood too?

No.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I know nothing about this guy. Is he a season ticket holder?

How is it possible that you know nothing about AriChiefs/AliChiefs/Teedubya? The guy has been a vocal member at CP for as long as I can remember.

Deberg_1990 · 09-12-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How is it possible that you know nothing about AriChiefs/AliChiefs/Teedubya? The guy has been a vocal member at CP for as long as I can remember.

Heh…..i don’t know? I don’t really keep up with the personal facts of members. Except for you Mr. Pesci. : )

Deberg_1990 · 09-12-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I believe there was an email posted here from someone in sales who told a CP member that it was their choice to be a fan, after they said they weren't going to buy tickets until Cassel was gone.

It's just odd there was a story about a candy wrapper, but there have been at least two occasions where people from the organization have told fans "it's your choice to buy our product." Of course, it is our choice, but between the reports of how much of a control freak Pioli is, the fact that the NFL has seen a decline in attendance in each of the past 3-4 years, and of course the Chiefs' struggles, it's pretty sad they're so clueless when it comes to dealing with upset customers.

Sure, maybe it's just a case of two people having a bad day, but that's really no excuse. It's nothing to be outraged about... it's just another sad display from an organization that somehow still thinks it's 1995 from both a product standpoint and social media/PR standpoint.

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What alternative are you going to give people when it's 10 degrees outside on Sunday?

This tells me the Chiefs KNOW they have upper hand and don’t need to change. They can continue to piss on the fans and yet fans will continue to show up in droves because well, its KC…theres nothing else better to do.

htismaqe · 09-12-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

This tells me the Chiefs KNOW they have upper hand and don’t need to change. They can continue to piss on the fans and yet fans will continue to show up in droves because well, its KC…theres nothing else better to do.

Yep.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-12-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

This tells me the Chiefs KNOW they have upper hand and don’t need to change. They can continue to piss on the fans and yet fans will continue to show up in droves because well, its KC…theres nothing else better to do.

Duh. Any and every critical thinker know this as fact,which is why the Chiefs can continue to manipulate their fans into believing they're actually doing something in the offseason when in reality, they're not doing nearly enough to bring home a Super Bowl.

It's a Shell Game.

**Bearcat** · 09-12-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

This tells me the Chiefs KNOW they have upper hand and don’t need to change. They can continue to piss on the fans and yet fans will continue to show up in droves because well, its KC…theres nothing else better to do.

Yeah... but, it is slowly changing now that it's been two decades since they won a playoff game. And even if it's not a substitute for football, Sporting KC is showing people how an organization should be run. That kind of arrogance usually catches up to a company, except in this case they're the only game in town and they could eventually move if things got really bad.... so yeah, they know they have the fans by the balls.

But, like I said, I do think it's slowly changing... Arrowhead is rarely at the same level as it was 10-15 years ago, more long-term season ticket holders have finally given up their tickets... I've been going to games for free or at least 50% off for the past several years, and it's almost always in the lower level. But, that doesn't mean they won't continue to make a shitload of money for years to come and fans won't flock back the moment they show signs of improving... hell, I would have been tempted to buy season tickets had Peyton Manning or a franchise QB come to town.

htismaqe · 09-12-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Then I say again, if you want change or don’t like the product, organize the masses to stop spending money on it. Isnt that how it works in Hollywood too?

I know nothing about this guy. Is he a season ticket holder?

How is automatically jumping to the last resort the best solution?

This is the problem with the monopoly that is pro football.

When consumer confidence is wavering, Ford Motor Company doesn't get on Twitter and say "**** you, go buy a Toyota". They interact with people on Twitter (and Facebook and all sort of other contact media) and actively (or silently) solicit feedback on HOW TO IMPROVE CONSUMER CONFIDENCE.

They actually want someone to get on Twitter and say "I've bought Fords all my life but this new F150 is bullshit. " It gives them an opportunity to get a leg up on their COMPETITION by actually asking the customer "what don't you like?" and "what would you improve?"

If the guy just stops buying Fords and gets everybody else to do the same, Ford eventually stops making F150s to cut their losses and in the end, he doesn't get what he wants.

mcaj22 · 09-12-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Its just the age we live in. Every joe blow fanboy feels that just because he has a “internet voice” hes ready to become a CEO.

The problem with that is and social media is, a guy that looks like that would never say those words to even a Chiefs intern in person.

Ill sit here and bash the Chiefs all I want, but I am not going to go out of my way to hunt some low end staffer on the Chiefs official payroll that is probably some 24 year old out of college yuppie making just enough to pay his rent and make that guys job harder because the guys at the top of his food chain suck.

If Scott Pioli ran the twitter, I'd understand. But at the end of the day, he doesn't. And taking it out on some rando is no different than walking in a 5 star restaurant, hating the food, so you go in the bathroom and shit on the floor instead of the toilet to make the janitor's job worse.

htismaqe · 09-12-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

The problem with that is and social media is, a guy that looks like that would never say those words to even a Chiefs intern in person.

Ill sit here and bash the Chiefs all I want, but I am not going to go out of my way to hunt some low end staffer on the Chiefs official payroll that is probably some 24 year old out of college yuppie making just enough to pay his rent and make that guys job harder because the guys at the top of his food chain suck.

If Scott Pioli ran the twitter, I'd understand. But at the end of the day, he doesn't. And taking it out on some rando is no different than walking in a 5 star restaurant, hating the food, so you go in the bathroom and shit on the floor instead of the toilet to make the janitor's job worse.

What are you talking about?

People call into customer service organizations ALL THE TIME and complain about things that the individual agent can't change. That's the PURPOSE of customer service.

This type of thing is the only reason for the Chiefs to have an official Twitter feed. The ONLY reason.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-12-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

The problem with that is and social media is, a guy that looks like that would never say those words to even a Chiefs intern in person.

Ill sit here and bash the Chiefs all I want, but I am not going to go out of my way to hunt some low end staffer on the Chiefs official payroll that is probably some 24 year old out of college yuppie making just enough to pay his rent and make that guys job harder because the guys at the top of his food chain suck.

If Scott Pioli ran the twitter, I'd understand. But at the end of the day, he doesn't. And taking it out on some rando is no different than walking in a 5 star restaurant, hating the food, so you go in the bathroom and shit on the floor instead of the toilet to make the janitor's job worse.

Wow. Clueless.