Chiefs down to 3

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Messier

I'm not a Joeckel fan, at all, but why is CP the only place I'm hearing how bad he is? He might be, and if we're taking a T I'd rather have Fisher. Its just that I can't find anyone outside CP that says things like, he's not even a first round talent. If you know of some share, because, and again, no LJ fan, but the anti Joeckel stuff comes off as the opposite to the pro Geno stuff. A mob reaction to being sick of hearing his name associated with the Chiefs.

They're mostly the same people with the same irrational approach to football analysis/discussion.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

They're mostly the same people with the same irrational approach to football analysis/discussion.

How about no, Scott

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by SNR

How about no, Scott

Why is he bad in your opinion?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Why is he bad in your opinion?

Watch him play. Eric Fisher blows up people, Luke Joeckel just re-directs pass rushers to the outside. One guy is an asshole, the other is a fat pig.

And to be quite honest, one of them is more conducive to an excellent RT than the other, and that needs to be our consideration going forward out of all this. 100%. Branden Albert is still on this team and if the Chiefs really are in "win now" mode, putting a rookie in at LT is a dumb idea. A seriously ****ing dumb idea.

It may only stay that way for a year, but in that time we need our RT to do RT things, and not play the way Joeckel does against the rush.

[Sassy Squatch]

I've always just kind of dismissed Joeckel on the fact that he's only blocked for Tannehil and Manziel.

[Canofbier]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Why is he bad in your opinion?

He shows good technique in pass protection and can shut down speed rushers, but struggled at times against some of the strong bull rushers he encountered in the SEC. They're only going to get stronger in the NFL. He is an adequate physical specimen, but his athleticism isn't elite. Combine that with his lack of a true "nasty streak" and he doesn't project to be a fantastic run blocker in the NFL.

He's a good talent, no doubt, but when you select a tackle with the first overall pick, he should at least have the potential to be dominant in both the running and passing game, which I don't think Joeckel does.