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Old 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM  
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:41 PM   #2206
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:42 PM   #2207
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The Chevy Volt is a step in that direction. Its just too bad it wasn't around 5 yrs ago.
I was discussing what would happen if the country switched over to pure electric vehicles with some nice chaps from an electric utility last week.

They just laughed.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:43 PM   #2208
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Like what?

Solar? Obviously not.

Hydrogen? Hydrogen is NOT an energy source, but we could use it to generate electricity through power cells. Unfortunately, it's very expensive.

Electric/Hybrid? Like I said, that's the best bet right now, along with increased MPG limits.
We probably should have been working on building the infrastructure and cars for electric for a while now.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:45 PM   #2209
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We probably should have been working on building the infrastructure and cars for electric for a while now.
The market didn't demand it, plain and simple.

If you want electric to be the future, we HAVE to build new plants, including nuclear. Renewable (solar, wind, geo, etc.) won't provide the new demand required from a massive shift to electric.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:46 PM   #2210
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Oh stop it.
You disagree that they didn't try?
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:47 PM   #2211
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I was discussing what would happen if the country switched over to pure electric vehicles with some nice chaps from an electric utility last week.

They just laughed.
Why is that funny?
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:47 PM   #2212
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You disagree that they didn't try?
Heck, I don't even know what you are referring to. Please tell me not the 250 mpg carburetor...
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:48 PM   #2213
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Why is that funny?
Because our present generation capacity couldn't handle the new demand. They laughed in more of a "are you fucking kidding, Donger!?" kind of way.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:49 PM   #2214
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The market didn't demand it, plain and simple.

If you want electric to be the future, we HAVE to build new plants, including nuclear. Renewable (solar, wind, geo, etc.) won't provide the new demand required from a massive shift to electric.
I know and we should have been building the infrastructure decades ago. Nixon talked about getting off foreign oil in 71 and here we are today still sucking the tit.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:50 PM   #2215
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Electric cars are great. But i dnt see it as viable for trucking,railroading or farming ever
Ehh actually railroads would be better suited for it than im giving them credit for.
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Because our present generation capacity couldn't handle the new demand. They laughed in more of a "are you fucking kidding, Donger!?" kind of way.
Ahh. Gotcha.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:52 PM   #2217
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Electric cars are great. But i dnt see it as viable for trucking,railroading or farming ever
Biodiesel would work well there, IMO
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:55 PM   #2218
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Electric cars are great. But i dnt see it as viable for trucking,railroading or farming ever
Ehh actually railroads would be better suited for it than im giving them credit for.
I don't think getting rid of oil permanently is ever going to happen but if the majority of personal vehicles ran electric we could probably sustain our self with domestic oil.
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:06 PM   #2219
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I don't think getting rid of oil permanently is ever going to happen but if the majority of personal vehicles ran electric we could probably sustain our self with domestic oil.
Only if they make them affordable. Something we can't seem to accomplish in America.
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:20 PM   #2220
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This is what happens when you become beholden to things you can't control. We should have longed ago moved away from oil. We only have ourselves to blame.
Are you trying to say Jimmy Carter was right?
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