Ronda Rousey vs. Floyd Mayweather who would win?

[BigRedChief]

Almost everyone agrees that if boxing rules were used Mayweather would win. No contest.

So here is the rules for our hypothetical fight:

Either no rules or UFC rules.

I think Rousey gets him into an armbar in the 1st round and its over.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Silock

Rousey has taken down male UFC fighters in sparring sessions before. She could take down Mayweather easily if they didn't have to abide by boxing rules.

This. I wouldn't so quickly dismiss her having a shot under UFC rules. She is superb at judo.

[jonzie04]

Mayweather is probably the fastest, and smartest 150lb fighter on the planet...I very seriously doubt that Ronda could get close enough to get him to the ground. If she had an elite double or single leg and knew how to time it GSP style then maybe, but with Mayweathers speed, timing, and footwork. I don't think she can take him down, and he knocks her out. Lots of non wrestling fighters can easily avoid takedowns from all american wrestlers VIA footwork and timing and setting the range. I don't think she could come even close to taking Mayweather down inside an octagon.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

Lots of non wrestling fighters can easily shed takedowns from all american wrestlers VIA footwork and timing.

This is the most ill-informed statement I've read on here in the last couple of days, and I read every post in the Missouri football boycott thread.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

This is the most ill-informed statement I've read on here in the last couple of days, and I read every post in the Missouri football boycott thread.

Apparently you've never Seen Alexander Gustaffson fight. That is exactly why it was so difficult for Jon Jones to take him down.

[jonzie04]

It really isn't that difficult of a concept to understand. If you can't grab somebody then obviously almost all throws/trips are completely eliminated. Also Timing takedowns is very important. GSP was a master at timing the double leg take down, which is a large part of why he was such a dominant wrestler despite not having a wrestling background.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

Apparently you've never Seen Alexander Gustaffson fight. That is exactly why it was so difficult for Jon Jones to take him down.

Apparently you don't understand that words have meanings. To say that "lots of non wrestling fighters can easily take down All-American wrestlers" is a joke. And then to back up your argument you use one example of a fight not involving an All-American wrestler. Jon Jones went to a JUCO out of high school. Yes, he won a JUCO National Championship, but let's not act like he was Dan Gable or John Smith.

Gustaffson also has had major training in the art of wrestling a skill which Mayweather has no experience. I'm not saying that Rousey would definitely win in an MMA rules fight against Mayweather, but the idea that Mayweather would knock her out easily before she could take him down is just dumb. Mayweather doesn't punch hard enough to knock out anyone.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Apparently you don't understand that words have meanings. To say that "lots of non wrestling fighters can easily take down All-American wrestlers" is a joke. And then to back up your argument you use one example of a fight not involving an All-American wrestler. Jon Jones went to a JUCO out of high school. Yes, he won a JUCO National Championship, but let's not act like he was Dan Gable or John Smith.

Gustaffson also has had major training in the art of wrestling a skill which Mayweather has no experience. I'm not saying that Rousey would definitely win in an MMA rules fight against Mayweather, but the idea that Mayweather would knock her out easily before she could take him down is just dumb. Mayweather doesn't punch hard enough to knock out anyone.

Firstly i said lots of non wrestlers can AVOID being taken down, not TAKE down the wrestlers. Fighters use timing and footwork to both setup AND avoid takedowns in EVERY SINGLE fight. Who are some of the All americans Munoz, Hendricks, Cormier, Hendo, Mendez, Phil Davis, Lesnar, Cain. I've seen literally every single one of those guys struggle to take down fighters who didn't have a wrestling back ground... And it was because they all had a difficulty setting up shots without due to the other fighters timing and footwork. You really think that Gustaffson training in wrestling for a few years allowed him to be able to wrestle with an olympian like Cormier, or the best MMA wrestler in Jon Jones GTFO? Those few times they actually could get their hands on him sure... But the other 49 minutes and 35 seconds of the two fights it was Gus's ability to control range via footwork and timing.

And wtf do you mean floyd doesn't punch hard enough to knock anyone out? He's knocked out 26 professional male fighters... He would likely have no problem knocking out a much smaller woman, who wouldn't even see the punch coming.

I dont think you actually understand how much of fighting is based on timing.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

Firstly i said lots of non wrestlers can AVOID being taken down, not TAKE down the wrestlers. Fighters use timing and footwork to both setup AND avoid takedowns in EVERY SINGLE fight. Who are some of the All americans Munoz, Hendricks, Cormier, Hendo, Mendez, Phil Davis, Lesnar, Cain. I've seen literally every single one of those guys struggle to take down fighters who didn't have a wrestling back ground... And it was because they all had a difficulty setting up shots without due to the other fighters timing and footwork. You really think that Gustaffson training in wrestling for a few years allowed him to be able to wrestle with an olympian like Cormier, or the best MMA wrestler in Jon Jones GTFO? Those few times they actually could get their hands on him sure... But the other 49 minutes and 35 seconds of the two fights it was Gus's ability to control range via footwork and timing.

And wtf do you mean floyd doesn't punch hard enough to knock anyone out? He's knocked out 26 professional male fighters... He would likely have no problem knocking out a much smaller woman, who wouldn't even see the punch coming.

I dont think you actually understand how much of fighting is based on timing.

Since 2006 Mayweather has had one KO and one TKO in 14 fights. He has never been considered a powerful puncher. You are trying to use one of the best MMA fighters in the world as an example of what Mayweather could accomplish vs. Rousey. It's not only Gustaffson's boxing ability but also his wrestling training that helps him avoid being taken down. Mayweather has zero wrestling training and has turned into a timid bitch in the last several years of his career.

Another thing you need to consider is that boxers in general are accustomed to getting into clinches after a combination of punches. That is one thing that Mayweather wouldn't have the luxury of doing against any accomplished MMA fighter and against Rousey, it would be the end of the fight because she would own him once she was able to get her hands on him.

[Bufkin]

Originally Posted by Brock

Ronda needs to take on that raunchy chick before thinking about fighting men.

This. Until she defeats Roseanne Barr, I have no interest in seeing her get her lights knocked out by a man.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Since 2006 Mayweather has had one KO and one TKO in 14 fights. He has never been considered a powerful puncher. You are trying to use one of the best MMA fighters in the world as an example of what Mayweather could accomplish vs. Rousey. It's not only Gustaffson's boxing ability but also his wrestling training that helps him avoid being taken down. Mayweather has zero wrestling training and has turned into a timid bitch in the last several years of his career.

Another thing you need to consider is that boxers in general are accustomed to getting into clinches after a combination of punches. That is one thing that Mayweather wouldn't have the luxury of doing against any accomplished MMA fighter and against Rousey, it would be the end of the fight because she would own him once she was able to get her hands on him.

Mayweather has knocked out 26 professional male boxers period. No he isn't a powerful puncher, but it doesn't take a lot of power to put someone out if they don't see it coming. And that is exactly what would happen if Ronda blindly rushed him like she does to all of them women she fought.

Obviously Gustaffsons wrestling ability helps him once the wrestlers are actually able to get their hands on him, but you're greatly mistaken if you attribute his take down defense to his wrestling ability and not his ability to control range...Lyoto Machida is another guy who's great at it. Aldo.... JDS...It has very little to do with wrestling, or wrestling training, and it has everything to do with the things I mentioned, in addition to reflexes... Go rewatch Machida vs Jones round 1. Machida easily controls the range and Jones can't even come close to taking him down unless he tries for a low single from 4 feet away.. Go rewatch Aldo vs Mendes an all american wrestler Aldo easily controls the range and Mendes really has to give everthing he has to even get close enough to even attempt a take down, and when he does he's so out of position he cant... Nothing to do with wrestling.

And Machida, JDS, Gus, Aldo etc aren't even in the same galaxy as Mayweather when it comes to footwork, reflexes, and ability to control Range..And they're successfully controlling the range, and avoiding takedowns against fighters who are much better at setting up takedowns than Ronda...Who just charges in.

The best boxers in the world can barely even get into punching range, and hit Mayweather from there. How in the hell is Ronda supposed to get even closer into clinch range where she does all of her takedown attempts?

Like I said, if Ronda was smarter at setting up takedowns, and had a good double or single, I would have no problem picking her to take Mayweather down, and then do whatever she wanted... But she doesn't have the skills to take Floyd down.

[-King-]

She literally wouldn't be able to catch him. And he would easily knock her the **** out.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Since 2006 Mayweather has had one KO and one TKO in 14 fights. He has never been considered a powerful puncher. You are trying to use one of the best MMA fighters in the world as an example of what Mayweather could accomplish vs. Rousey. It's not only Gustaffson's boxing ability but also his wrestling training that helps him avoid being taken down. Mayweather has zero wrestling training and has turned into a timid bitch in the last several years of his career.

I don't like Mayweather. But saying he's turned into a timid bitch is just too much. I will never blame a boxer for not wanting to take repeated punches to the head. And if you're the best defensive fighter ever and can avoid it... you avoid it as much as possible. He would counter anything Ronda would do and knock her to another century.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

So you really think he could keep her off him and avoid a takedown to apply the armbar?

yes - easily.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Brock

Ronda needs to take on that raunchy chick before thinking about fighting men.

Which one? Is this a threat to her? the raunchy chick got skills?

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Silock

Rousey has taken down male UFC fighters in sparring sessions before. She could take down Mayweather easily if they didn't have to abide by boxing rules.

Not likely.