NFL Draft 2009 Mock Draft - Page 4

listopencil · 05-12-2008, 10:36 AM

I thought this was odd...

"The draft order in this mock draft was determined by calculated judgment on how I believe the teams will fair this season. All of the prospects in this mock draft are eligible for the 2009 draft, but just because they’re eligible, that doesn’t mean they will declare. With that said, congratulations to the Dallas Cowboys for winning Super Bowl XLIII and to the Kansas City Chiefs for finishing with the worst record, as they continue to rebuild their football team. The Chiefs are now on the clock…"

http://profootballexperts.scout.com/2/752283.html

EyePod · 05-12-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I'm starting to think that, around the NFL, the Chiefs lack cred when it comes to this rebuild thing. Herm needs to call a press conference to straighten this sh*t out.

"Hey, now."

FAX

I'd rather be underestimated.... Last season was a big let down after going 4-3 and then 9 losses in a row. I mean, I didn't think we'd win an SB, but I was hoping for more than 4-12... I like this "If we have 6 or more wins, this is a productive season" feeling that I have. 6 wins aren't that hard to come by.... (I didn't say this last season, so I figure if I say it this one, it can't possibly hurt.... and I'm ready for the repercussions if we don't win 6 or more... this quote can be placed in my signature....)

EyePod · 05-12-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DT58HOF

Tim Tebow will never start a regular season game in the NFL
this guy is an idiot!!

He'll probably start, but I don't think he'll be that good. Mobile QB's are good for me. I don't like running QB's. Injuries are too common.

EyePod · 05-12-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by picasso

Oh that is right I forgot about the incredible services that Larry Johnson provided us with last year was lost thus Croyle failed to compete. What? LJ didn't do crap all season, before or after he went down. BUT.... we still managed to win games without Croyle and lose them with him. And to compare him to Elway or Aikman or Manning is an overated comparison. For when these guys played they may have lost the game but they put their team on their shoulders. One thing that Croyle doesn't have....the ability to put a team on his shoulders and the lack of....shoulders.

Really, you must me mentally challenged. How can you say that so matter-of-factly. I mean, you could have said that you don't think he has the shoulders for it or something like that. I think he wasn't given a legitimate shot last season. He needs a little more help than 2 options to throw to, especially with the leagues worst OL and literally NO running game. How can you evaluate him based on that situation. I can't think of any situation which would be worse for a QB to get his first chances to start in than our team last season.

smittysbar · 05-12-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DT58HOF

1 Sun. Sep. 07 1:00 pm ET at Patriots - - Matchup LOSS
2 Sun. Sep. 14 1:00 pm ET Raiders - - Matchup WIN
3 Sun. Sep. 21 1:00 pm ET at Falcons - - Matchup WIN
4 Sun. Sep. 28 1:00 pm ET Broncos - - Matchup WIN
5 Sun. Oct. 05 1:00 pm ET at Panthers - - Matchup LOSS
6 BYE WEEK
7 Sun. Oct. 19 1:00 pm ET Titans - - Matchup WIN
8 Sun. Oct. 26 1:00 pm ET at Jets - - Matchup WIN
9 Sun. Nov. 02 1:00 pm ET Buccaneers - - Matchup WIN
10 Sun. Nov. 09 4:15 pm ET at Chargers - - Matchup LOSS
11 Sun. Nov. 16 1:00 pm ET Saints - - Matchup LOSS
12 Sun. Nov. 23 1:00 pm ET Bills - - Matchup WIN
13 Sun. Nov. 30 4:15 pm ET at Raiders - - Matchup WIN
14 Sun. Dec. 07 4:05 pm ET at Broncos - - Matchup LOSS
15 Sun. Dec. 14 1:00 pm ET Chargers - - Matchup LOSS
16 Sun. Dec. 21 1:00 pm ET Dolphins - - Matchup WIN
17 Sun. Dec. 28 1:00 pm ET at Bengals - - Matchup WIN

10-6 finish and playoff birth!!
what will everyone be thinking when we are 6-2 going to week 10????

I want some of what your smoking.

damm looks like using a regulars av will rack up some neg rep.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-12-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Like Elway and Aikman are complete busts and failures when they were starting out, huh

So you're saying that Brodie Croyle is a First Ballot Hall of Famer in waiting?

LiL stumppy · 05-12-2008, 06:57 PM

Screw Tebow. We don't need him.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-12-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So you're saying that Brodie Croyle is a First Ballot Hall of Famer in waiting?

Let see where did I say that?

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-12-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Let see where did I say that?

Anyone that compares Brodie Croyle to Troy Aikman and John Elway are comparing him to two first ballot Hall of Famers.

Croyle's had TWO years to do something, not just one. He was horrific in Pittburgh in 2006 and couldn't eek out a win in 2007.

All I can say is that I'll be happy when there can be no more excuses made for Croyle.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-12-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Anyone that compares Brodie Croyle to Troy Aikman and John Elway are comparing him to two first ballot Hall of Famers.

.

No where did I say, he'll be a HOFer? Don't put word in my mouth

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-12-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Like Elway and Aikman are complete busts and failures when they were starting out, huh

Is that not comparing Croyle's early career to Elway & Aikman's career?

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-12-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Is that not comparing Croyle's early career to Elway & Aikman's career?

I'm comparing what they had to work with when they started, which was nothing. When they finally got the players to win they succeeded

Delano · 05-12-2008, 07:30 PM

It looks like there is a bit more elite talent in the '09 draft. Even if the Chiefs don't pick in the top five, they'll still get an elite playmaker.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-12-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I'm comparing what they had to work with when they started, which was nothing. When they finally got the players to win they succeeded

I think comparing Croyle's career to two Hall of Fame QB's is tenuous at best.

Teams have been built around QB's before that couldn't succeed. Like Dilfer in Tampa Bay or Alex Smith in San Fran or David Carr in Houston. The list is endless.

There's are dozens of examples of teams that were built around a QB, only for that QB to be not worth a shit and the team had to move on.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-12-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think comparing Croyle's career to two Hall of Fame QB's is tenuous at best.

Teams have been built around QB's before that couldn't succeed. Like Dilfer in Tampa Bay or Alex Smith in San Fran or David Carr in Houston. The list is endless.

There's are dozens of examples of teams that were built around a QB, only for that QB to be not worth a shit and the team had to move on.

When has Croyle had a chance with the proper tools to work with? He had no O-Line at all, HOFers would have been murdered by the OL last season.

cookster50 · 05-12-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Herm is really the only one that could hold us back from that.

Dave

3-13 here we come then!

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