Would you put a microchip in your child to protect them? - Page 2

KCFalcon59 · 06-07-2007, 08:30 PM

With the tragic death of the Overland Park girl, would you consider putting a microchip in your children to keep them safe from predatory scumbags?

crazycoffey · 06-07-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59

That is not always possible. Being divorced, I can't be there to keep an eye on them at all times. I worry when they aren't with me.

Me too, I live in a different state now, but I am still very active in their lives. As they grow, I will make random trips, I will keep making contact with their teachers, and while I don't particularly like their mother, I also know she has their best interest at heart and is a good - hands on parent.

I am not going to put a "chip" in them just to give me a false sense of security. Parenting is work, there are not short cuts in it, even as divorced fathers. The road is longer and harder, but if you walk the road one step at a time you will get to the top. The "chip" is like asking scotty to beam you up, it doesn't work that way.

BTW, being worried is normal. But you can only control so much.

Demonpenz · 06-07-2007, 08:49 PM

where do they ususally put the chip anyway? The arm? A killer would just lop off that arm and dump it in a trashcan.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-07-2007, 08:49 PM

I'm not in favor of Lo-Jacking human beings.

crazycoffey · 06-07-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

where do they ususally put the chip anyway? The arm? A killer would just lop off that arm and dump it in a trashcan.

exactly, as a parent you can only control so much....

KCFalcon59 · 06-07-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey

Me too, I live in a different state now, but I am still very active in their lives. As they grow, I will make random trips, I will keep making contact with their teachers, and while I don't particularly like their mother, I also know she has their best interest at heart and is a good - hands on parent.

I am not going to put a "chip" in them just to give me a false sense of security. Parenting is work, there are not short cuts in it, even as divorced fathers. The road is longer and harder, but if you walk the road one step at a time you will get to the top. The "chip" is like asking scotty to beam you up, it doesn't work that way.

BTW, being worried is normal. But you can only control so much.

I agree with what you say. Though I don't have faith that their mother has their best interests at heart. She is a very selfish human being and constantly puts herself first. I don't doubt her love for our kids, but she does put herself first.

I would have to think long and hard before I went this route. This world gets more frightening every day.

Simplex3 · 06-07-2007, 08:54 PM

Every system we've ever designed to make us more secure has been hacked by the very people we're trying to protect ourselves from.

Hell no. It's a stupid ass idea.

KCFalcon59 · 06-07-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Every system we've ever designed to make us more secure has been hacked by the very people we're trying to protect ourselves from.

Hell no. It's a stupid ass idea.

True. It's something you think about when bad things like this happen. We all love our children so much, and things like this frighten us to our cores. My kids are the most important part of my life. Same as Kelsey was to her parents.

crazycoffey · 06-07-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59

I agree with what you say. Though I don't have faith that their mother has their best interests at heart. She is a very selfish human being and constantly puts herself first. I don't doubt her love for our kids, but she does put herself first.

I would have to think long and hard before I went this route. This world gets more frightening every day.

sorry to hear about the ex. but we made our beds.....

The world is crazy! I hope for you all the best of luck, I understand what you are saying too.

synthesis2 · 06-07-2007, 09:03 PM

I think its a great idea, everyone is just too paraniod about it. Killers I would assume by nature are crazy and not right in the head anyway, people have scars are over there body so a tiny little scar where it would be inplanted wouldn't make you think twice. When I have kids I am definatly going to do it.

I understand raising kids is probably tough etc etc. but if your kid is the 1 in 100,000 that gets kidnapped taken etc, I would want to know right away where he/she is . call it peace of mind, but I think if it happended to any of your kids and it had been a day or two and no sign of them and someone said that if your kid had a chip in them that you could find them within minutes, you would have done it in a heartbeat..

Just my two cents..

crazycoffey · 06-07-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

I think its a great idea, everyone is just too paraniod about it. Killers I would assume by nature are crazy and not right in the head anyway, people have scars are over there body so a tiny little scar where it would be inplanted wouldn't make you think twice. When I have kids I am definatly going to do it.

I understand raising kids is probably tough etc etc. but if your kid is the 1 in 100,000 that gets kidnapped taken etc, I would want to know right away where he/she is . call it peace of mind, but I think if it happended to any of your kids and it had been a day or two and no sign of them and someone said that if your kid had a chip in them that you could find them within minutes, you would have done it in a heartbeat..

Just my two cents..

No, it's called a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY, try being a good parent instead.

Simplex3 · 06-07-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

I think its a great idea, everyone is just too paraniod about it. Killers I would assume by nature are crazy and not right in the head anyway, people have scars are over there body so a tiny little scar where it would be inplanted wouldn't make you think twice. When I have kids I am definatly going to do it.

Any kind of chip that helps you locate your child will help some perv do the same. They won't be picking up random kids, they'll be picking from a list of 5 year old blond girls right out of the computer database they're all entered in. From that list they'll track down your information, they'll find out who you pay what amounts of money to. They'll know pretty quickly where to find your kid.

Good luck.

PS, I'm the father of two, and one is a 5 year old blond girl.

KCFalcon59 · 06-07-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey

sorry to hear about the ex. but we made our beds.....

The world is crazy! I hope for you all the best of luck, I understand what you are saying too.

I don't want it to sound like she is all bad. She is just a me first person. Always will be. My kids are getting to the age where they are seeing this with their own eyes. I try very hard to discourage any hard feelings.

Fishpicker · 06-07-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

i would never in a million years implant a chip into my dog, no ****ing way in hell would i put one in my child. its just an attempt to make us more comfortable with the idea.

good point... RFIDs are for farm animals and pets. Any and all info that is stored on RFID can be read by any scanner within the proximity of the RFID. so, if your kid has an RFID chip with medical/home/personal info...all of that can and will be stolen.

If you honestly want to track your children, do it with GPS (cell phone, OnStar, GPS compass/watch)

Dayze · 06-07-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Any kind of chip that helps you locate your child will help some perv do the same. They won't be picking up random kids, they'll be picking from a list of 5 year old blond girls right out of the computer database they're all entered in. From that list they'll track down your information, they'll find out who you pay what amounts of money to. They'll know pretty quickly where to find your kid.

Good luck.

PS, I'm the father of two, and one is a 5 year old blond girl.

yup

as soon as these types of criminals are proven guilty - non contested slam dunk case - they need to let the parents decide A. to let them serve the rest of their life in jail, or B. immediately taken behind the courthouse and executed.

trndobrd · 06-07-2007, 09:16 PM

Would the chip make lasers shoot out the kid's eyes or something? If not, what real protection would it offer? None. Killers are not going to check possible victims for subdermal bumps prior to kidnapping them. Rapists are not going to thoughtfully consider the possibility of a microscopic transmitter as they are dumping the body.

Want to protect your kids? Know where they are going and what time they will be back. Enroll them in Karate or Tae Kwon Do (besides, exercise is good for them). Know who they are hanging around with, and those kids parents. Make sure they use their seatbelts. Teach the girls to punch and the boys to run. Most importantly, teach them to listen to that little voice that says something isn't right

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Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	Every system we've ever designed to make us more secure has been hacked by the very people we're trying to protect ourselves from. Hell no. It's a stupid ass idea.
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06-07-2007, 09:03 PM	#24
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9335401	I think its a great idea, everyone is just too paraniod about it. Killers I would assume by nature are crazy and not right in the head anyway, people have scars are over there body so a tiny little scar where it would be inplanted wouldn't make you think twice. When I have kids I am definatly going to do it. I understand raising kids is probably tough etc etc. but if your kid is the 1 in 100,000 that gets kidnapped taken etc, I would want to know right away where he/she is . call it peace of mind, but I think if it happended to any of your kids and it had been a day or two and no sign of them and someone said that if your kid had a chip in them that you could find them within minutes, you would have done it in a heartbeat.. Just my two cents..
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trndobrd 'Stachecicle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Tolerance Box Casino cash: $4965087	Would the chip make lasers shoot out the kid's eyes or something? If not, what real protection would it offer? None. Killers are not going to check possible victims for subdermal bumps prior to kidnapping them. Rapists are not going to thoughtfully consider the possibility of a microscopic transmitter as they are dumping the body. Want to protect your kids? Know where they are going and what time they will be back. Enroll them in Karate or Tae Kwon Do (besides, exercise is good for them). Know who they are hanging around with, and those kids parents. Make sure they use their seatbelts. Teach the girls to punch and the boys to run. Most importantly, teach them to listen to that little voice that says something isn't right __________________ "I don't really think there is a need to raise or debate this point." -jAZ
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