Would you put a microchip in your child to protect them? - Page 4

KCFalcon59 · 06-07-2007, 08:30 PM

With the tragic death of the Overland Park girl, would you consider putting a microchip in your children to keep them safe from predatory scumbags?

bayarealightning · 06-08-2007, 12:20 AM

Well, for my first post. I am a Charger fan who has enjoyed the banter that this forum has provided since I became aware of this site. I never intended to join but just to see what other fans of the AFC West were thinking about and discussing. I had to join when a restriction was placed on viewing the content of the site. Now that that is over with. I have thought about this subject for quite awhile. What first got me thinking was the thought that if I lived in Central or South America, would I place a chip in my family's arm to know where they were and to have choices if they were kidnapped. My answer was yes.

Also, I thought of whether chips were placed, unknowingly, in terrorest arms and they were allowed to escape *wink* *wink* to track where they go to then strike against said organization (a few years ago in Yemen, a group of terrorests escaped prison and a few days later, a strike was completed against their stronghold and killed the cell).

Now, I would not put a chip in my child's arm (I have no kids at this moment), but they do have watches equiped with a GPS tracking system. I would not hesitate to provide my child with this devise. Not to be nosey in what my child is doing 24/7, but for times like what we have recently seen where a child is abducted. Not only may you be able to save your child's life, but may also save that child from unspeakable acts perpetrated against that child. What we are seeing is dispickeble (sp.) and serious consequences should be exacted on ANY individual who puts a child through such trauma for their own satisfaction.

You guys are right that a tracking devise isn't the end-all-be-all, but if it gives you a chance as a parent to protect your child against some of the sick-os out there, I would do that.

Anyway, as a rival fan of the Chiefs, I will say that I enjoy the banter of this board. Carry on!

Logical · 06-08-2007, 12:32 AM

bayarealightning,

Welcome to the BB.

bayarealightning · 06-08-2007, 01:21 AM

Thsnks for the welcome. I will not be rude and fail to acknowledge a greeting. What I like about this board, is that it seems closer to a community rather than just fans spewing on about football. That is why I had to join rather than be locked out. You know what they say, once you jump into the pool, the water isn't that bad. Oh well, you guys have now got yourselves a new poster. I understand that I am a visitor to your house and will conduct myself as such.

synthesis2 · 06-08-2007, 02:55 AM

I want to address two points to my defense on this idea and why I like it.

First, it wouldn't be like there is a picture and age etc associated with the chip that is going in your child so some hack/child molestor could get into a database and look your child up. Your kid would have a code number and letters like " ajjdejdjejd232j" associated with it and it is the code for your kid but there isn't any other information about your child excpet that you know its for your kid. It would't have age sex etc, just the location for that code. So the only thing that could be hacked into is that for the code above it is a "person" and thats all.

Second, I stand by my point that "IF" your kid was taken etc I don't think there is one parent out there that "wouldn't " want to find out right away where there child is.... Take a senerio that your kid was abducted and 8 hours had gone by, would you rather gps the chip and locate your kid within 5 minutes or just wait with the cops for days and days until your child finally shows up dead somewhere..???

I get all of the conspiracy theories and all but this is different, there isn't a parent out there that "put into that situation" wouldn't choose the later of the two options.

Simplex3 · 06-08-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

I want to address two points to my defense on this idea and why I like it.

First, it wouldn't be like there is a picture and age etc associated with the chip that is going in your child so some hack/child molestor could get into a database and look your child up. Your kid would have a code number and letters like " ajjdejdjejd232j" associated with it and it is the code for your kid but there isn't any other information about your child excpet that you know its for your kid. It would't have age sex etc, just the location for that code. So the only thing that could be hacked into is that for the code above it is a "person" and thats all.

Yeah, the govt wouldn't f**k that up. Get real.

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

Second, I stand by my point that "IF" your kid was taken etc I don't think there is one parent out there that "wouldn't " want to find out right away where there child is.... Take a senerio that your kid was abducted and 8 hours had gone by, would you rather gps the chip and locate your kid within 5 minutes or just wait with the cops for days and days until your child finally shows up dead somewhere..???

I get all of the conspiracy theories and all but this is different, there isn't a parent out there that "put into that situation" wouldn't choose the later of the two options.

I have a piece of news for you:

Bad s**t is going to happen to you and all those you love. You're all going to die. Some day, in some way.

Simplex3 · 06-08-2007, 05:28 AM

Ok everyone of you "if they were chipped I could find my kid" types. Let's examine the actual technology here.

Non-self-powered chips, like RF-ID, require the reader to be within feet of the chip to work. Someone please explain how you're going to get RF-ID readers every three feet throughout the US.

Devices capable of actually transmitting a signal long distances require a several milliwatt radio. Those require batteries. You're basically talking about implanting a cell phone into your child. So when you put little Johnny to bed you'll have to make sure to brush his teeth, bath him, and finally, plug him in.

Of course, to be of any use that radio will have to be transmitting frequently. This will necessitate a larger battery. I'm also going to assume you're going to be just fine when your kids die from some side effect of that constant bombardment. Hey, at least you'll know they didn't get kidnapped.

Don't be f**king stupid.

**Saulbadguy** · 06-08-2007, 05:41 AM

Stop watching the news.

Fishpicker · 06-08-2007, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3

Ok everyone of you "if they were chipped I could find my kid" types. Let's examine the actual technology here.

Non-self-powered chips, like RF-ID, require the reader to be within feet of the chip to work. Someone please explain how you're going to get RF-ID readers every three feet throughout the US.

Devices capable of actually transmitting a signal long distances require a several milliwatt radio. Those require batteries. You're basically talking about implanting a cell phone into your child. So when you put little Johnny to bed you'll have to make sure to brush his teeth, bath him, and finally, plug him in.

Of course, to be of any use that radio will have to be transmitting frequently. This will necessitate a larger battery. I'm also going to assume you're going to be just fine when your kids die from some side effect of that constant bombardment. Hey, at least you'll know they didn't get kidnapped.

Don't be f**king stupid.

synthesis2 · 06-08-2007, 07:22 AM

Simplex3 your an idiot...

Your the person who loves to be right about everything and if people don't agree with you then you love to show how "smart" you are. Your a joke...

Have you ever thought that there are things you simply don't know about? Maybee there is a chip that dosen't require to be charged but can still have long range capacity...

Your response... " Oh that can never happen, your an idiot and need to go F**K yourself.."

I bet you were the guy who said back in the 1980's that computers would never catch on. The internet wouldn't go anywhere. CD's would never outsell tapes.. etc etc etc... Your just such a smart guy, I'm really glad you get to give you wonderful opinions..

KC Kings · 06-08-2007, 07:31 AM

No way will I put a chip in my kid. If I were a kidnapper and knew there was a chance my target was tagged, I would buy a $15 skimmer and find out for sure. If I found one, I would cut it out. Only a few months back a farmer just south of Lone Jack found a couple dozen cattle missing and a pile of left ears where his fence was cut.

I will turn on cell phone GPS and install the auto device that tracks location and speed but look at what we have now compared to what we had in '92. Another 15 years from now there may be a lot more options available.

trndobrd · 06-08-2007, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2

Simplex3 your an idiot...

Your the person who loves to be right about everything and if people don't agree with you then you love to show how "smart" you are. Your a joke...

Have you ever thought that there are things you simply don't know about? Maybee there is a chip that dosen't require to be charged but can still have long range capacity...

Your response... " Oh that can never happen, your an idiot and need to go F**K yourself.."

I bet you were the guy who said back in the 1980's that computers would never catch on. The internet wouldn't go anywhere. CD's would never outsell tapes.. etc etc etc... Your just such a smart guy, I'm really glad you get to give you wonderful opinions..

Please feel free to post a link to this new RFID chip that suspends the laws of physics by broadcasting radio waves (energy) without a source for that energy. I can think of all kinds of applications for that sort of technology.

If we are going to talk about things we don't know about, the technology of 2037, or what have you, then why don't we just have a chip that will make the kid shoot lasers from his eyes or teleport him back to his bedroom?

KC Kings · 06-08-2007, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3

Ok everyone of you "if they were chipped I could find my kid" types. Let's examine the actual technology here.

Non-self-powered chips, like RF-ID, require the reader to be within feet of the chip to work. Someone please explain how you're going to get RF-ID readers every three feet throughout the US.

Devices capable of actually transmitting a signal long distances require a several milliwatt radio. Those require batteries. You're basically talking about implanting a cell phone into your child. So when you put little Johnny to bed you'll have to make sure to brush his teeth, bath him, and finally, plug him in.

Of course, to be of any use that radio will have to be transmitting frequently. This will necessitate a larger battery. I'm also going to assume you're going to be just fine when your kids die from some side effect of that constant bombardment. Hey, at least you'll know they didn't get kidnapped.

Don't be f**king stupid.

Three feet huh? Your RFID knowledge is outstanding.

Maybe you could try to do a little basic research on a topic before you try to write a post about it?

KC Kings · 06-08-2007, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Please feel free to post a link to this new RFID chip that suspends the laws of physics by broadcasting radio waves (energy) without a source for that energy. I can think of all kinds of applications for that sort of technology.

If we are going to talk about things we don't know about, the technology of 2037, or what have you, then why don't we just have a chip that will make the kid shoot lasers from his eyes or teleport him back to his bedroom?

A lot of companies are already using them for supply chain operations. Passive UHF RFID tags are over 20 cents a piece so you can't put them on everything, but you can tag by the pallet and simply drive down the aisle and do a complete inventory in a matter of seconds.

Walmart tried to mandate that all of their products be rfid tagged, but backed out of it because of the cost and difficulty getting a good signal from certain items, such as metal cans.

**Easy 6** · 06-08-2007, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

What would be a better idea is to put a microchips in the convicts, such as killers, murderers, sex-offenders, and keep track of the ****ers.

Thats the best idea i've heard on any subject in a very long time.

htismaqe · 06-08-2007, 07:57 AM

Where's the "Not only no, but **** NO, you've got to be ****ing kidding me" option?

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06-07-2007, 08:30 PM
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06-08-2007, 12:20 AM	#46
bayarealightning Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco Casino cash: $10004900	Well, for my first post. I am a Charger fan who has enjoyed the banter that this forum has provided since I became aware of this site. I never intended to join but just to see what other fans of the AFC West were thinking about and discussing. I had to join when a restriction was placed on viewing the content of the site. Now that that is over with. I have thought about this subject for quite awhile. What first got me thinking was the thought that if I lived in Central or South America, would I place a chip in my family's arm to know where they were and to have choices if they were kidnapped. My answer was yes. Also, I thought of whether chips were placed, unknowingly, in terrorest arms and they were allowed to escape wink wink to track where they go to then strike against said organization (a few years ago in Yemen, a group of terrorests escaped prison and a few days later, a strike was completed against their stronghold and killed the cell). Now, I would not put a chip in my child's arm (I have no kids at this moment), but they do have watches equiped with a GPS tracking system. I would not hesitate to provide my child with this devise. Not to be nosey in what my child is doing 24/7, but for times like what we have recently seen where a child is abducted. Not only may you be able to save your child's life, but may also save that child from unspeakable acts perpetrated against that child. What we are seeing is dispickeble (sp.) and serious consequences should be exacted on ANY individual who puts a child through such trauma for their own satisfaction. You guys are right that a tracking devise isn't the end-all-be-all, but if it gives you a chance as a parent to protect your child against some of the sick-os out there, I would do that. Anyway, as a rival fan of the Chiefs, I will say that I enjoy the banter of this board. Carry on!
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06-08-2007, 12:32 AM	#47
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	bayarealightning, Welcome to the BB.
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06-08-2007, 01:21 AM	#48
bayarealightning Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco Casino cash: $10004900	Thsnks for the welcome. I will not be rude and fail to acknowledge a greeting. What I like about this board, is that it seems closer to a community rather than just fans spewing on about football. That is why I had to join rather than be locked out. You know what they say, once you jump into the pool, the water isn't that bad. Oh well, you guys have now got yourselves a new poster. I understand that I am a visitor to your house and will conduct myself as such.
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06-08-2007, 02:55 AM	#49
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9335401	I want to address two points to my defense on this idea and why I like it. First, it wouldn't be like there is a picture and age etc associated with the chip that is going in your child so some hack/child molestor could get into a database and look your child up. Your kid would have a code number and letters like " ajjdejdjejd232j" associated with it and it is the code for your kid but there isn't any other information about your child excpet that you know its for your kid. It would't have age sex etc, just the location for that code. So the only thing that could be hacked into is that for the code above it is a "person" and thats all. Second, I stand by my point that "IF" your kid was taken etc I don't think there is one parent out there that "wouldn't " want to find out right away where there child is.... Take a senerio that your kid was abducted and 8 hours had gone by, would you rather gps the chip and locate your kid within 5 minutes or just wait with the cops for days and days until your child finally shows up dead somewhere..??? I get all of the conspiracy theories and all but this is different, there isn't a parent out there that "put into that situation" wouldn't choose the later of the two options.
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06-08-2007, 05:28 AM	#51
Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	Ok everyone of you "if they were chipped I could find my kid" types. Let's examine the actual technology here. Non-self-powered chips, like RF-ID, require the reader to be within feet of the chip to work. Someone please explain how you're going to get RF-ID readers every three feet throughout the US. Devices capable of actually transmitting a signal long distances require a several milliwatt radio. Those require batteries. You're basically talking about implanting a cell phone into your child. So when you put little Johnny to bed you'll have to make sure to brush his teeth, bath him, and finally, plug him in. Of course, to be of any use that radio will have to be transmitting frequently. This will necessitate a larger battery. I'm also going to assume you're going to be just fine when your kids die from some side effect of that constant bombardment. Hey, at least you'll know they didn't get kidnapped. Don't be f**king stupid.
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06-08-2007, 05:41 AM	#52
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06-08-2007, 07:22 AM	#54
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9335401	Simplex3 your an idiot... Your the person who loves to be right about everything and if people don't agree with you then you love to show how "smart" you are. Your a joke... Have you ever thought that there are things you simply don't know about? Maybee there is a chip that dosen't require to be charged but can still have long range capacity... Your response... " Oh that can never happen, your an idiot and need to go F**K yourself.." I bet you were the guy who said back in the 1980's that computers would never catch on. The internet wouldn't go anywhere. CD's would never outsell tapes.. etc etc etc... Your just such a smart guy, I'm really glad you get to give you wonderful opinions..
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06-08-2007, 07:31 AM	#55
KC Kings Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: KC Casino cash: $10004900	No way will I put a chip in my kid. If I were a kidnapper and knew there was a chance my target was tagged, I would buy a $15 skimmer and find out for sure. If I found one, I would cut it out. Only a few months back a farmer just south of Lone Jack found a couple dozen cattle missing and a pile of left ears where his fence was cut. I will turn on cell phone GPS and install the auto device that tracks location and speed but look at what we have now compared to what we had in '92. Another 15 years from now there may be a lot more options available.
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06-08-2007, 07:57 AM	#60
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Where's the "Not only no, but ** NO, you've got to be **ing kidding me" option?
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