Football Joe Montana shits on Rudy - Page 4

Hammock Parties · 11:45 PM

I love this.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf-268408

Biopic fans will be shocked – shocked! – to learn that Hollywood takes liberties with the real-life narratives and characters that often come to stand in for history in the popular imagination. In the case of the enduring 1993 hit "Rudy," the film was so unrecognizably warped beyond the existence of an undersized Notre Dame player who registered an improbable sack against Georgia Tech in 1975 that former Irish coach Dan Devine called certain scenes – notably the climactic moment when Rudy's teammates confront Devine's villainous character by handing in their jerseys to get Rudy on the dress list, and later his reluctance to actually put Rudy in the game – "unforgivable" and "a lie."

Hall of Famer Joe Montana, then a lowly freshman lingering somewhere on the depth chart, doesn't remember it quite as harshly. But as he told radio host Dan Patrick on Wednesday, he certainly doesn't remember any uplifting strings swelling in the rafters, either:

DP: Were you there when Rudy was there?

JM: Yeah. It's a movie, remember. Not all of that is true.

DP: What wasn't true?

JM: Well, the crowd wasn't chanting. No one threw in their jerseys. He did get in the game. He got carried off [at the end of] the game. [...] Back then they tried to play someone at the end of [the season] that all the seniors could get in the last home game.

The schedule was kind of set that way. So he got in. He did get a sack. And then the guys carried him off, just playing around. I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around. He worked his butt off to get where he was and to do the things he did. But not any harder than anyone else.

And so reality continues its long unbeaten streak against trumped-up sentiment – not that Rudy Ruettiger minds, now that he's parlayed his 15 minutes into a steady career as motivational speaker and "corporate trainer." I suppose anyone who's able to inspire and sell a bogus feel-good movie about himself being a run-of-the-mill scrub is destined for success.

BIG_DADDY · 09-09-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's a dick and I hate him.

He's the least personable Super Bowl winning QB of all time, maybe the least personable NFL QB of all time.

The mere fact that a three time winning Super Bowl QB is peddling shoes for old people is indicative of the dick factor.

No one wants anything to do with him.

I don't think Joe is a dick as much as he just really struggles at communicating. Watching him try is downright painful. I think he may have issues with going from all the glamour to nothing but the bottom line is you just can't put him in front of a camera. He is like the Martha Stewart of QB's.

BTW I have no idea why anyone would hate the guy. He was a master at what he did and performed at a level that most people believed made him the best ever. He also ended his career in KC. Hell if he had played another year we may have won it all.

BIG_DADDY · 09-09-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Param

I don't really care for him either. And he's not the best QB of all time anyway.

I am not going to argue that with you but every poll I have ever seen asking who was the best ever he won unless it was done in a bias forum.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-09-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

We should change the thread title to "Dane shits on Joe Montana."

I'm inclined to agree.

RippedmyFlesh · 09-10-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Clay and I go back and forth on a daily basis in various threads. It's all in good fun.

Joe's a dick.

And I am sure I have cheered for others who were also.
I separate a person's work from what kind of person they are.
Just like some musicians I like are prob dicks.
I look at as the work someone does and the kind of person they are as 2 different entities. Thats how I resolve rooting for all I know could be thugs.
Because I liked montana the football player doesn't mean I think he's a good guy.
Thats why I hate elway. As a football player. He may be the nicest guy in the world but I hated him from a football standpoint.
If elway played for say washington I'd prob be neutral . And still would have liked montana better as a qb.

Rasputin · 09-10-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

We should change the thread title to "Dane shits on Joe Montana."

DaneMcCloud

Joe Montana

Rudy Ruettuger

> Cassel

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2010, 12:11 AM

Joe is a dick because he doesn't have very many endorsements.

Only on here.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-10-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Joe is a dick because he doesn't have very many endorsements.

Only on here.

And your dick was in your mom's **** the last time he won anything of significance.

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And your dick was in your mom's **** the last time he won anything of significance.

WTF?

That's it Dane. I hate you now. I haven't seen you on ESPN, Reebok, or NFL Network lately. You must be a huge dickhead.

Hammock Parties · 09-10-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

WTF?

That's it Dane. I hate you now. I haven't seen you on ESPN, Reebok, or NFL Network lately. You must be a huge dickhead.

You don't comprehend Dane's point.

He's saying Joe isn't working in TV or doing ads because PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH HIM.

Why?

He's a douchenugget.

Montana actually had a brief stint with CBS Sports (or maybe NBC) after he retired. But he promptly disappeared and has NEVER been seen again as a TV analyst.

Wonder why?

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You don't comprehend Dane's point.

He's saying Joe isn't working in TV or doing ads because PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH HIM.

Why?

He's a douchenugget.

Montana actually had a brief stint with CBS Sports (or maybe NBC) after he retired. But he promptly disappeared and has NEVER been seen again as a TV analyst.

Wonder why?

I get his point, calm down.

I just think it's kinda dumb to hate someone because he thinks everybody else thinks he's a dick.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-10-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You don't comprehend Dane's point.

He's saying Joe isn't working in TV or doing ads because PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH HIM.

Why?

He's a douchenugget.

Montana actually had a brief stint with CBS Sports (or maybe NBC) after he retired. But he promptly disappeared and has NEVER been seen again as a TV analyst.

Wonder why?

Montana was one of the most wooden studio analysts I've ever seen. He had a constant deer in the headlights look.

It could just be that he was a horrible analyst.

Hammock Parties · 09-10-2010, 12:39 AM

You want to know what's amazing?

NFL Network did FOUR episodes of America's Game telling the tale of the 49ers 80s Super Bowl teams. The four teams that Montana played on.

They interviewed 12 different players or coaches, on camera, from those teams.

JOE MONTANA...the BEST PLAYER on those teams...was not interviewed.

Why not?

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Montana was one of the most wooden studio analysts I've ever seen. He had a constant deer in the headlights look.

It could just be that he was a horrible analyst.

Maybe it wasn't for him, like you said. Or maybe he was never that interested in being on T.V.

The fact is, no one on here knows the back story to why he's lived his life the way he's chosen to. I'm not going to hold it against him.

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You want to know what's amazing?

NFL Network did FOUR episodes of America's Game telling the tale of the 49ers 80s Super Bowl teams. The four teams that Montana played on.

They interviewed 12 different players or coaches, on camera, from those teams.

JOE MONTANA...the BEST PLAYER on those teams...was not interviewed.

Why not?

Interesting. But I'm not gonna by that as him being a dick. If he pushed a child down a flight of stairs it would make sense.

Rasputin · 09-10-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You want to know what's amazing?

NFL Network did FOUR episodes of America's Game telling the tale of the 49ers 80s Super Bowl teams. The four teams that Montana played on.

They interviewed 12 different players or coaches, on camera, from those teams.

JOE MONTANA...the BEST PLAYER on those teams...was not interviewed.

Why not?

The other 40 players or coaches that didn't get interviewed must be dicks too.

09-09-2010, 07:46 PM
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