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Old 01-13-2013, 11:21 AM   #1
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:19 AM   #2
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glazer on fox said the jets "can't give their GM position away...they're calling back people who turned them down and begging them to reconsider"
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:19 AM   #3
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glazer on fox said the jets "can't give their GM position away...they're calling back people who turned them down and begging them to reconsider"
Don't blame the candidates because they'd be walking into a position to fail. Coach in place whom he doesn't want? Check. QBs in place whom he doesn't want and one whom he likely can't get rid of because of contract? Check.

Should have nuked the entire thing, but some people are just too stubborn or stupid to realize this.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:23 AM   #4
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Don't blame the candidates because they'd be walking into a position to fail. Coach in place whom he doesn't want? Check. QBs in place whom he doesn't want and one whom he likely can't get rid of because of contract? Check.

Should have nuked the entire thing, but some people are just too stubborn or stupid to realize this.
yup....big ass bucket of fail

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Old 01-13-2013, 11:21 AM   #5
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glazer on fox said the jets "can't give their GM position away...they're calling back people who turned them down and begging them to reconsider"
That made my morning "Pre-football" today lol
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:17 AM   #6
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:21 AM   #7
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:25 AM   #8
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If the Jets would commit to part with Rex Ryan and draft a new QB if a new GM came in, they wouldn't be in this situation. Basically what is going to happen is some GM will come in having to inherit this mess and then hope he can make a move after next season with those two issues. The Jets have been a freaking circus as of late.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:28 AM   #9
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Chiefs do need one more pass rusher. But the notion you need 5 or 6 is ****ing laughable.

The Texans have 2 guys right now who could generate pressure and they get a ton of it.

Romeo isn't an attacking DC by any means.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:32 AM   #10
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Chiefs do need one more pass rusher. But the notion you need 5 or 6 is ****ing laughable.

The Texans have 2 guys right now who could generate pressure and they get a ton of it.

Romeo isn't an attacking DC by any means.
The Texans have like 5 guys.

JJ Watt
Antonio Smith
Brooks Reed
Connor Barwin
Whitney Mercilus
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:39 AM   #11
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The Texans have like 5 guys.

JJ Watt
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Brooks Reed
Connor Barwin
Whitney Mercilus
My bad about Mercilus and didn't realize Smith had that many sacks.

However, Smith is hardly a pass rusher and most of his sacks could be attributed to scheme.

Scheme absolutely will help a lot of these numbers if it's an attacking one-gap style.

Chiefs need one more impact rusher, but having 3 guys that can bring heat will do nothing but free up the down lineman to make plays.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:46 AM   #12
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My bad about Mercilus and didn't realize Smith had that many sacks.

However, Smith is hardly a pass rusher and most of his sacks could be attributed to scheme.

Scheme absolutely will help a lot of these numbers if it's an attacking one-gap style.

Chiefs need one more impact rusher, but having 3 guys that can bring heat will do nothing but free up the down lineman to make plays.
Well my point is, Tyson Jackson or Allen Bailey or whatever turd not named Dontari Poe isnt even close to an Antonio Smith type pass rusher, whether it's scheme or not. That is obvious, and that is why, we need more pass rushers like the good pass rushing teams have
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How many teams out there have 5-6 legitimate pass rushers?
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:50 AM   #14
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Well my point is, Tyson Jackson or Allen Bailey or whatever turd not named Dontari Poe isnt even close to an Antonio Smith type pass rusher, whether it's scheme or not. That is obvious, and that is why, we need more pass rushers like the good pass rushing teams have
Pitoutua knows the Ryan scheme and can plug into a 46. If Poe progresses, you have Poe, Houston, Hali, DJ, and Berry situationally. It's possible a guy like Bailey can thrive if you let him stunt a little bit. Our mission critical is to have 1 guy who can play the role of pass rushing 5-technique.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:45 AM   #15
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The Texans have like 5 guys.

JJ Watt
Antonio Smith
Brooks Reed
Connor Barwin
Whitney Mercilus
We shouldn't model ourselves after the Texans, nor should we think there's a problem because we don't have a JJ Watt on our defensive line. I know you keep bringing him up. He's the exception, not the rule.

Think Poe has potentially to be a decent push guy with time. The Chiefs have 2 outstanding pass rushers in Houston and Hali. I guarantee you that DJ will be a solid pass rusher if he's let loose, and Berry can most certainly be an option too (especially in a 46). We have at least 3 to 4 guys who can probably today step in and be decent pass rushers in a better scheme. Again, DJ can't rush the passer if he's not allowed to blitz. Our DEs can't rush the passer if they're never allowed to stunt.
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