Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If they measure their self worth by their size they have some serious issues. Would you want your daughter's self esteem to be tied to the size of her boobs?

You're too smart to argue in bizarre absolutes.

Vanity exists. It's why people buy nice clothes, wear deodorant, comb their hair, get braces, lift weights, tuck in their shirt, use napkins, etc.

That doesn't mean that their self worth is tied to these things.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You're too smart to argue in bizarre absolutes.

Vanity exists. It's why people buy nice clothes, wear deodorant, comb their hair, get braces, lift weights, tuck in their shirt, use napkins, etc.

That doesn't mean that their self worth is tied to these things.

ITT: A guy talking about how testosterone made him feel like a better husband, father, and person.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

ITT: A guy talking about how testosterone made him feel like a better husband, father, and person.

Who are you referring to?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who are you referring to?

BigCatDaddy.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

BigCatDaddy.

That's not what I got from his posts, but I see what you're saying.

Playing devil's advocate, is that necessarily a bad thing? If a guy has more energy, sex drive, etc., what's wrong with that?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's not what I got from his posts, but I see what you're saying.

Playing devil's advocate, is that necessarily a bad thing? If a guy has more energy, sex drive, etc., what's wrong with that?

It is if it is potentially damaging to his health. Ecstasy does similar things to sex drive and energy, but he obviously shouldn't be rolling 24x7 because it's deleterious.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It is if it is potentially damaging to his health. Ecstasy does similar things to sex drive and energy, but he obviously shouldn't be rolling 24x7 because it's deleterious.

However the risk of Test use is very minimal if done correctly. Like I mentioned before we are talking Meth type side effects.

I think it's pro-wrestling that gives PED's a bad rap because of all the early deaths and obvious use of steroids. People often look at those guys and jump to that conclusion without realing all the pain killers, stimulants, and other rec drugs guys are also putting in bodies that are abused often on a nightly basis as is. Lyle Alzado's bullshit didn't help either.

In the world of BBin'g guys like Arnold, Sly, Lou, and many others live to ripe old ages, but people ignore that.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

ITT: A guy talking about how testosterone made him feel like a better husband, father, and person.

Talk to anyone that has ever had low T and see how they feel.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Talk to anyone that has ever had low T and see how they feel.

It's confusing to follow your train of thought because you are advocating two positions simultaneously while often conflating the rationale.

If you have Low T you have a hormonal disorder. That's entirely different than shooting yourself up to impress other people or make yourself look better (far beyond your genetic capability) for your own "self-esteem".

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's confusing to follow your train of thought because you are advocating two positions simultaneously while often conflating the rationale.

If you have Low T you have a hormonal disorder. That's entirely different than shooting yourself up to impress other people or make yourself look better (far beyond your genetic capability) for your own "self-esteem".

I was explaining my use of T. It originally was prescribed as a medical condition, but I'm able to get and use beyond what is considered "normal'. So I use for multiple reasons.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You're too smart to argue in bizarre absolutes.

Vanity exists. It's why people buy nice clothes, wear deodorant, comb their hair, get braces, lift weights, tuck in their shirt, use napkins, etc.

There are dress codes that exist at country clubs, restaurants, schools and the workplace. Admittance to those places require that people have proper hygiene, manners and appearance.

Using a napkin is part of living in a civilized society.

It has absolutely nothing to do with vanity.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There are dress codes that exist at country clubs, restaurants and schools. Admittance to those places require that people have proper hygiene, manners and appearance.

Using a napkin is part of living in a civilized society.

It has absolutely nothing to do with vanity.

So you only address your appearance when you're going somewhere that requires it?

Unlike hamas, you aren't too smart to argue bizarre absolutes. It's right where you're at, unfortunately.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

So you only address your appearance when you're going somewhere that requires it?

Absolutely.

I wear shorts and flip flops every day of the year. The only time I ever put on jeans these days is to go out to dinner or for drinks.

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Unlike hamas, you aren't too smart to argue bizarre absolutes. It's right where you're at, unfortunately.

Right, says the guy that compares piano lessons to HGH.



Bottom line, "Saul": You're a dumb**** that likes to argue because you can. And you know absolutely nothing about me, jackass.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Absolutely.

I wear shorts and flip flops every day of the year. The only time I ever put on jeans these days is to go out to dinner or for drinks.



Right, says the guy that compares piano lessons to HGH.



Bottom line, "Saul": You're a dumb**** that likes to argue because you can. And you know absolutely nothing about me, jackass.

Are you really this comically lacking in self-awareness? I started a thread and was having a casual conversation. YOU are the one who came in here and started arguing and tossing around insults. It's what you do (when there aren't underaged girls in your immediate vicinity).

I'm pretty certain that you've made your opinion clear (irrespective of the fact that nobody asked for it). If you've got nothing to add to the discussion other than start a fight, feel free to leave.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Are you really this comically lacking in self-awareness? I started a thread and was having a casual conversation. YOU are the one who came in here and started arguing and tossing around insults. It's what you do (when there aren't underaged girls in your immediate vicinity).

Yeah, and once you decided you didn't like the responses, you started spewing all kinds of nonsense, relating steroids and HGH use to braces and piano lessons.

Seriously, do you realize how dumb that makes you appear? I know you think you're a "hotshot" because you've called out Phobia about Hootie, but, Child, please.

Braces = Anabolic Steroids? That's your argument?

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm pretty certain that you've made your opinion clear (irrespective of the fact that nobody asked for it).

Last I checked, Hotshot, this a community forum. I can choose to participate or not participate. It's not up to you.

Originally Posted by Saul Good

If you've got nothing to add to the discussion other than start a fight, feel free to leave.

Pointing out your stupidity is not starting a fight. Maybe if you were as smart as you think you are, you'd realize that fact.