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Old 10-12-2012, 09:30 PM   #1
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:30 PM   #2
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I just don't see the ball changing direction as it went by the foul pole.

Let's say the umpires ruled it a homerun. The final score would look like this: Yankees 3, Orioles 2. The Orioles still lose.

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Via Star-Ledger: Yankees vs. Orioles: Even Nate McLouth said foul call was fair

Umpire Fieldin Culbreth called it a foul ball. Replays seemed to back up that ruling, but Showalter wanted another opinion.

"I saw it go to the right of the pole," Culbreth told a pool reporter. "There is netting there and it didn’t touch the netting. It did not change direction."

Crew chief Brian Gorman concurred.

"We saw the same thing on the replay," Gorman said. "There was no evidence to overturn the decision."

McLouth, frankly, didn’t see what all the fuss was about. He thought it had been foul from the moment he hit it and even reacted that way upon Culbreth’s initial call.

"It was real close, obviously. But from what I could see, it was foul," he said. "I didn’t know for sure, but it was so close. It was close. He (Culbreth) was closer than I was, so I took his word for it."
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...en_nate_m.html


Foul Ball.

Enlarge: http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/vid...89974&c_id=bal
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:32 PM   #3
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I just don't see the ball changing direction as it went by the foul pole.

Let's say the umpires ruled it a homerun. The final score would look like this: Yankees 3, Orioles 2. The Orioles still lose.


http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...en_nate_m.html


Foul Ball.

Enlarge: http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/vid...89974&c_id=bal
See you didn't even watch the game just looking at the scorecard. That would of made it 1-1 in the 6 who knows how the inning plays out.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:32 PM   #4
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I just don't see the ball changing direction as it went by the foul pole.
It would help if you watched the play. Radio isn't going to cut it for this discussion.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:27 AM   #5
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I watched the play - The Yankees own their own regional TV sports network - The game will replay in its entirety, repeated continuously.

If you think McLouth hit a home run - I respect that -

The home run doesn't change who won the game.

If this makes you happy go for it:

Yankees 3
Orioles 2
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:33 AM   #6
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I watched the play - The Yankees own their own regional TV sports network - The game will replay in its entirety, repeated continuously.

If you think McLouth hit a home run - I respect that -

The home run doesn't change who won the game.

If this makes you happy go for it:

Yankees 3
Orioles 2
You can not do that. You can not just add a run assuming the game plays out that way. Who knows what happens if its 1 to 1. Maybe Baltimore wins, maybe the Yankees win 15 to 1. We dont know.

Its like when somebody gets thrown out stealing and the next pitch is a homerun and people say "that would have been a 2 run homer." How can you say that? The pitcher's thought process is different, the pitch he throws may be different, and the batter is thinking different. Hell, just the 10 second delay for the steal may cause the pitcher to throw the ball different even if he still thinks exactly the same and throws the same pitch.

You listened to it on 880? I can't imagine how Sterling and Susan called that play. I would imagine Sterling let you know 20 seconds after the hit it was called foul and said nothing else. The two of them are terrible. I used to hate Kay. Still don't like him but he is better than he used to be.

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Old 10-13-2012, 07:53 AM   #7
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The home run doesn't change who won the game.

How can you even said it wouldn't?!!!! You don't think I tie game affects players approaches at the plate, or the managers changes in pitchers etc. I could go on and on. Baseball is the classic situational game dictated by the current situation and manager/player approaches to that situation.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:58 PM   #8
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I just don't see the ball changing direction as it went by the foul pole.
Are you kidding me? The ball's flight clearly was altered, sharply, downwards.

I'm not going to blame the replay guys for not seeing it if they didnt have this magnified super-slo mo, maybe in real-time speed its impossible to see, but in that video its clear.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:37 PM   #9
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The Raiders guy has a blue wicker bed. I hope he's in his mom's room. But at the same time, that would be just as creepy.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:08 PM   #10
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:11 PM   #11
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:25 PM   #12
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ball changed direction in mid flight...looks like it hit the pole.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:06 AM   #13
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Foul.

Don't blame the loss on the umps. Blame it on the fact that the Orioles completely forgot how to hit a baseball for the entire series.
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Foul.

Don't blame the loss on the umps. Blame it on the fact that the Orioles completely forgot how to hit a baseball for the entire series.
We're not blaming the Oriole loss on this call. They probably lose regardless. The question is, simply, home run or foul. Its clearly a home run, so you are wrong.
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