2014 NFL Combine - Players - The WRs

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Make it work, sure, if that's all you're looking for in a WR. If you want guys who just "make it work", take them in the 3rd or later rounds, not the 1st or second. That should be reserved for guys who can dominate at all areas of the field.

There's like 4 guys in the entire league that dominate all areas on the field... shitty argument.

You go with your gut and pick the one you think is the best. If you've got a problem with a 5'9 WR making 100+ catches a year because you could have got a 6'4 guy that makes a living on a catch that didn't count then you've got ****ing issues.

[planetdoc]

reposting since its relevant.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...d-b286b23bbb55

Ferrin: What is your overall evaluation of the entire 2014 NFL Draft Class?

Dorsey: "It’s another sign of the times, larger receivers, who will display the unique ability to have size and speed to play this game. We’ve always believed that size matters and I think this class is no different from the classes of the last couple years."

Size & Speed


Here is a list of the top 20 regular season WR of 2013 by receiving yrds:


only 4 are under 6' tall. I am sure Dorsey noticed that too.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by planetdoc

Size & Speed

Lets not waste any time ****ing around Dorsey. Lets grab Janis in the first round. He's big, fast and has the 2nd highest speed score! Guaranteed lock to dominate!

[planetdoc]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Lets not waste any time ****ing around Dorsey. Lets grab Janis in the first round. He's big, fast and has the 2nd highest speed score! Guaranteed lock to dominate!

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by jd1020

There's like 4 guys in the entire league that dominate all areas on the field... shitty argument.

You go with your gut and pick the one you think is the best. If you've got a problem with a 5'9 WR making 100+ catches a year because you could have got a 6'4 guy that makes a living on a catch that didn't count then you've got ****ing issues.

Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
AJ Green
Julio Jones
Brandon Marshall
Alshon Jeffrey
Josh Gordon
Larry Fitzgerald
Dez Bryant
Demaryius Thomas
Vincent Jackson

These guys all have the ability to dominate in the red zone, short, intermediate, or deep because of their size, strength, flexibility, focus, and great catch radius.

Small guys like Desean Jackson and Mike Wallace, who have all of the speed and quickness in the world, might as well not be on the field in the Red Zone. I'd rather have a slower Alshon Jeffrey/Brandon Marshall who can catch everything thrown their way over a tiny guy who would be virtually useless in the red zone and actually limits what you can do down there if they are on the field.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
AJ Green
Julio Jones
Brandon Marshall
Alshon Jeffrey
Josh Gordon
Larry Fitzgerald
Dez Bryant
Demaryius Thomas
Vincent Jackson

These guys all have the ability to dominate in the red zone, short, intermediate, or deep because of their size, strength, flexibility, focus, and great catch radius.

Small guys like Desean Jackson and Mike Wallace, who have all of the speed and quickness in the world, might as well not be on the field in the Red Zone. I'd rather have a slower Alshon Jeffrey/Brandon Marshall who can catch everything thrown their way over a tiny guy who would be virtually useless in the red zone and actually limits what you can do down there if they are on the field.

So you'd rather have another Bowe? Worked out well with Baldwin.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by jd1020

So you'd rather have another Bowe? Worked out well with Baldwin.

How many successful WRs out there that were true #1 targets and stood under 5'10", which Brandin Cooks does, in the recent history of the NFL (past 30 years)? Only one I can think of is Steve Smith.

Wes Welker has always had someone better playing around him (Moss, Gronk, Hernandez, D. Thomas, J. Thomas)

Maybe Desean Jackson? He's too inconsistent to be a true #1, IMO. He's either big splash or long stretches of nothing in games. More of a specialist like Mike Wallace.

Now, tell my how many great WRs in the recent history (past 30 years) of the NFL stood at or over 6'1" (my cut off for the #1 WR minimum height)?

Take a guess at which list is a hell of a lot longer.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

How many successful WRs out there that were true #1 targets and stood under 5'10", which Brandin Cooks does, in the recent history of the NFL (past 30 years)? Only one I can think of is Steve Smith.

Wes Welker has always had someone better playing around him (Moss, Gronk, Hernandez, D. Thomas, J. Thomas)

Maybe Desean Jackson? He's too inconsistent to be a true #1, IMO. He's either big splash or long stretches of nothing in games. More of a specialist like Mike Wallace.

Now, tell my how many great WRs in the recent history (past 30 years) of the NFL stood at or over 6'1" (my cut off for the #1 WR minimum height)?

Take a guess at which list is a hell of a lot longer.

Who the **** said Cooks was going to be a #1 target? He's a ****ing slot receiver. The Chiefs still have this big guy, maybe you've heard of him, Dwayne Bowe.

I realize, however, that they are a bunch of imbeciles on this board that refuse to believe a guy that put up #1 numbers with absolute shit throwing him the ball is a #1 WR, but this team needs a compliment to Bowe, not another ****ing Bowe. Can you imagine how unbearable it would be if the Chiefs had selected the under 6'1 receiver named Torrey Smith instead of Jonathan Baldwin? OH THE ****ING HORROR!!!!!!!

[planetdoc]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Who the **** said Cooks was going to be a #1 target? He's a ****ing slot receiver. The Chiefs still have this big guy, maybe you've heard of him, Dwayne Bowe.

chiefs already have a bunch of guys that are best suited as slot receivers in AJ Jenkins, Avery, and the canadian dude.

Bowe will be 30 yrs old by the start of the season, and has a cap # of $12 million this yr, and $14 million in 2015. That is a lot for a guy with 673 regular season receiving yrds in 2013.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by planetdoc

chiefs already have a bunch of guys that are best suited as slot receivers in AJ Jenkins, Avery, and the canadian dude.

You just named off a bunch of guys that are best suited on the bench.

And Bowe isn't going anywhere so you might as well get used to him being on the team.