Food and Drink Lets talk BBQ - Page 2

rambleonthruthefog · 01-26-2009, 02:01 PM

What i've been thinkin bout is.... other than location. what makes it Texas BBQ, or KC BBQ, or Memphis BBQ, or Carolina BBQ, etc.

I've spent most my life in TX, eatin' all my BBQ in TX, with the exception of two places. I've had plenty of good, and some great. I've always judged the BBQ here by and large by the chopped beef sandwich. if your sauce and chopped beef aren't delicious together, most likely i don't want any ribs or chicken. The other two BBQ joints i ate at were...

Arthur Bryants in KC. was there for my pilgrimage to Arrowhead
and a place called Corky's in Memphis. Was there for a Widespread Panic show.

I had some chopped beef at both joints and was not overly impressed, but the sausage sandwich i had at Arthurs was out of d*mn sight, it was hot, it was sliced nice and thin, and stacked high. it was great. prob the best sausage sandwich i've ever had. At corky's the ribs i had were great, i mean really really good. i didn't finish my chopped beef sandwich, but i did ask for some ribs to go. These two experiences blew my theory away.

i still think that the chopped beef makes or breaks you in TX, and most TX joints usually have some version of habanero sauce, or jalepeno sausage, and they all got pickles and onions, and most have banana pudding(preferably with nilla wafers), amd beans.

what makes it KC, Memphis, or Carolina BBQ?

rambleonthruthefog · 01-26-2009, 02:46 PM

can you even get good BBQ outside of these few select places?

tooge · 01-26-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog

can you even get good BBQ outside of these few select places?

Sure, anyone that knows how to cook good Q can go anywhere and do it. So, I am sure there is lots of good Q all over the place.

**Reaper16** · 01-26-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog

can you even get good BBQ outside of these few select places?

Here and there, I'm sure. But the four meccas have a true culture built up around bbq.

Sure-Oz · 01-26-2009, 02:51 PM

I ate at Oklahoma Joes saturday and man those fries OWN me and the bbq was damn good too.

Loved it! Better than jackstack imo, but ive had JS alot

**Reaper16** · 01-26-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

KC is all about sauce traditionally. Kc is a pretty good blend of all the others. Beef and Pork. Usually a tomato based sauce, and lots of it.

I am compelled to disagree. While it is probably true that KC has the biggest variation amongst sauces, I would argue that geography is more indicative of KC's bbq culture than sauce. Kansas City is the barbecue capital of the world because of a confluence of three factors: 1.) Westward expansion (i.e., Carolinian and Tennessean bbq men moving further west), 2.) animal stockyards (KC was second only to Chicago), and 3.) The Ozarks (the sheer abundance of readily available wood). The wood supply met the animal supply met the men trained to use both to make bbq.

It was destiny, baby.

Demonpenz · 01-26-2009, 02:53 PM

I always pimp out bb's lawnside bbq here. For the upmost bbq snob it probably isn't the greatest, but the people from st joseph and a guy from springfield said it was bad ass.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 01-26-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I ate at Oklahoma Joes saturday and man those fries OWN me and the bbq was damn good too.

Loved it! Better than jackstack imo, but ive had JS alot

I've always thought Jack Stack was pretty mediocre. I've likened them to BBQ for rich folks who don't wanna get dirty.

I'm a huge fan of burnt ends, and Jack Stack's burnt ends fat out suck.

**Reaper16** · 01-26-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I've always thought Jack Stack was pretty mediocre. I've likened them to BBQ for rich folks who don't wanna get dirty.

I'm a huge fan of burnt ends, and Jack Stack's burnt ends fat out suck.

Most everything there is merely above average for the area, apart from their stupendous beans.

KCChiefsMan · 01-26-2009, 02:56 PM

NC - pork
Memphis -slaw
KC - goodness
TX - big

Demonpenz · 01-26-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Most everything there is merely above average for the area, apart from their stupendous beans.

above average is still frickin good. Nothing will beat bbq by people with the time to manage their meat for long periods of time (barber shop excluded)

**Fire Me Boy!** · 01-26-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I am compelled to disagree. While it is probably true that KC has the biggest variation amongst sauces, I would argue that geography is more indicative of KC's bbq culture than sauce. Kansas City is the barbecue capital of the world because of a confluence of three factors: 1.) Westward expansion (i.e., Carolinian and Tennessean bbq men moving further west), 2.) animal stockyards (KC was second only to Chicago), and 3.) The Ozarks (the sheer abundance of readily available wood). The wood supply met the animal supply met the men trained to use both to make bbq.

It was destiny, baby.

Traditionally, the difference between the regions is only the sauce used on it. Meat, low heat, and smoke is barbecue.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 01-26-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Most everything there is merely above average for the area, apart from their stupendous beans.

Their beans ain't got nuthin' on mine.

I'm going to form a team down here in SC, and I'll be entering my beans in the "Anything Butt (pork)" competition.

I judged that comp. this past fall, and was HUGELY disappointed in the fare.

Stewie · 01-26-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I ate at Oklahoma Joes saturday and man those fries OWN me and the bbq was damn good too.

Loved it! Better than jackstack imo, but ive had JS alot

Can you eat an order of fries at OK Joe's by yourself? I always have to split them with someone.

Sure-Oz · 01-26-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Can you eat an order of fries at OK Joe's by yourself? I always have to split them with someone.

I ate about half of them and then ate them later. The gf and i got our own and she did the same and gave it to me. They do pile them on and man they were so good.

Next time we plan to share one.

**Reaper16** · 01-26-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Traditionally, the difference between the regions is only the sauce used on it. Meat, low heat, and smoke is barbecue.

I disagree with this too (not the insulting last sentence offered as if I didn't know what the shit I was talking about, but the first one).

You're going to find a large difference going back in the animals used in each region. You generally aren't going to find goat in Carolina or Memphis, but you see it all the time in Texas. I can only think of one or two places in KC that offer mutton, but over in TN you will see more. Etc.

01-26-2009, 02:01 PM
rambleonthruthefog Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Casino cash: $5585026	Lets talk BBQ What i've been thinkin bout is.... other than location. what makes it Texas BBQ, or KC BBQ, or Memphis BBQ, or Carolina BBQ, etc. I've spent most my life in TX, eatin' all my BBQ in TX, with the exception of two places. I've had plenty of good, and some great. I've always judged the BBQ here by and large by the chopped beef sandwich. if your sauce and chopped beef aren't delicious together, most likely i don't want any ribs or chicken. The other two BBQ joints i ate at were... Arthur Bryants in KC. was there for my pilgrimage to Arrowhead and a place called Corky's in Memphis. Was there for a Widespread Panic show. I had some chopped beef at both joints and was not overly impressed, but the sausage sandwich i had at Arthurs was out of d*mn sight, it was hot, it was sliced nice and thin, and stacked high. it was great. prob the best sausage sandwich i've ever had. At corky's the ribs i had were great, i mean really really good. i didn't finish my chopped beef sandwich, but i did ask for some ribs to go. These two experiences blew my theory away. i still think that the chopped beef makes or breaks you in TX, and most TX joints usually have some version of habanero sauce, or jalepeno sausage, and they all got pickles and onions, and most have banana pudding(preferably with nilla wafers), amd beans. what makes it KC, Memphis, or Carolina BBQ?
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