Chiefs Cassel injured - who dunnit? - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 08-30-2009, 01:01 AM

I'd say the replay clearly indicates Niswanger and McIntosh once again teamed up to suck. This time they suck badly enough to get Cassel injured.

First, the initial pressure is put on Cassel by #90. This is Waters' man. However, Waters can't get to him because Sackintosh/Niswanger get in his way.

Cassel is forced to run because of pressure from #90. After running around, #92 tackles Cassel's knee. Why is #92 running free?

He split a double team attempt by Niswanger and McIntosh.

They suck.

Messier · 08-30-2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

This goes higher up to Scott Pioli having "dunnit".

The Chiefs were virtually idle this offseason in terms of upgrading the offensive line and WR talent around Cassel (unless you count adding inexpensive, washed up veterans such as Goff and Engram).

Waiting until the middle of the preseason to begin panic shopping by bringing in the likes of of Lelie and Toomer and trading for the Dolphins offensive linemen duo is further proof that behind the Iron Curtain of secrecy at One Arrowhead Drive... Pioli has come to the realization that he didn't do enough this offseason to upgrade the talent on offense.

It begins.

**Baby Lee** · 08-30-2009, 05:45 AM

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This is going to be a loooooooooooooooong season.....

Or short as hell. Erased the game at half time, bitterly, dangerously, close to not giving a flying **** what goes on with these bozos anymore.

milkman · 08-30-2009, 05:53 AM

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And to think Jonathan Luigs was just sitting there in the 4th round BPA. Oh well. Im sure the Center position is going to be that deep next year again right?

And Jamon Meredith in the 5th.

Luigs at center, kick Niswanger out to RG, and Meredith at RT and this line would not be near the disaster it is right now.

milkman · 08-30-2009, 05:58 AM

Here's what I want to know.

You have an older, decending RG in Goff.
Why, at the snap do the Chiefs have him runnning to the left side of the formation, where he doesn't do anything but stand there like an idiot blocking no one?

Mebane split that double team practically before Niswanger and McIntosh come out of their stances.

Pioli Zombie · 08-30-2009, 06:11 AM

Cassel isn't hurt. Its a conspiracy by the evil Obama Administration to point out the need for Universal Health care.
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Norman Einstein · 08-30-2009, 07:17 AM

It didn't seem, in slow motion, to be an excessively illegal hit. Just one of those that happens.

I agree the OL still sucks. I do question the OL coach, why is it that with all that beef they can't get them to follow directions? If you disect the problem we either have all but one of our OL that suck or the OL coach sucks. At this level I'd be looking for an OL coach that can patch things together. Where's Art Shell when you need him?

donkhater · 08-30-2009, 07:22 AM

It seems to be assignment problems with these guys. Last week, on a running play, LJ got stuff behind the line when there was a clear hole to run through. Hell, he may have scored. But a LB went right up the middle to tackle him in the backfield despite showing that he was blitzing right over the center's nose. The center decided it would be beter to double team the guard AWAY from the flow of the play even though Waters had him blocked fine and the LBwas right there. Just a chip would've done it, but it looked as if he didn't even see him.

keg in kc · 08-30-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Why, at the snap do the Chiefs have him runnning to the left side of the formation

I don't know the playbook, but my guess is because it's play action and they're trying to sell it as a run left. Seattle doesn't seem to bite at all, so we're left with more blockers than bodies to block. Note that Albert doesn't touch anyone on the play either, and ends up all the way down the line apparently in pursuit of 90.

I don't know that the injury was anyone in particular's fault.

beach tribe · 08-30-2009, 07:26 AM

Holy shit.*Did you see how they were all just looking around looking like morons while they were tackling Cassel?

**Skip Towne** · 08-30-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Or short as hell. Erased the game at half time, bitterly, dangerously, close to not giving a flying **** what goes on with these bozos anymore.

This. This "patience" theme is wearing very thin.

**Bane** · 08-30-2009, 07:28 AM

At least it wasn't Haynesworth smothering him.That hit looked much better than the one Brady took.

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-30-2009, 07:39 AM

It's the gochiefs "Stay down bitch" curse

KCUnited · 08-30-2009, 07:42 AM

Mike Cox, WTF are you doing?

milkman · 08-30-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't know the playbook, but my guess is because it's play action and they're trying to sell it as a run left. Seattle doesn't seem to bite at all, so we're left with more blockers than bodies to block. Note that Albert doesn't touch anyone on the play either, and ends up all the way down the line apparently in pursuit of 90.

I don't know that the injury was anyone in particular's fault.

Actually, the question was rhetorical, just to get a shot at Goff.

The actual point was the fact that McIntosh and Niswanger both were slow to come out of their stances and get after the block.

Getting out of their stances slow, for both of them, has been a consistent problem and a primary reason they are getting their asses whipped on a regular basis.

Norman Einstein · 08-30-2009, 07:59 AM

Maybe the OL needs to start taking steroids so they can develop a little of that roid rage needed to be a bad ass OL!

If Cassel comes back for the opening game of the season I hope they have shored up the blocking scheme and stuff to keep him from getting put down and out of the league.

08-30-2009, 01:01 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4630478	Cassel injured - who dunnit? I'd say the replay clearly indicates Niswanger and McIntosh once again teamed up to suck. This time they suck badly enough to get Cassel injured. First, the initial pressure is put on Cassel by #90. This is Waters' man. However, Waters can't get to him because Sackintosh/Niswanger get in his way. Cassel is forced to run because of pressure from #90. After running around, #92 tackles Cassel's knee. Why is #92 running free? He split a double team attempt by Niswanger and McIntosh. They suck.
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08-30-2009, 05:58 AM	#19
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Here's what I want to know. You have an older, decending RG in Goff. Why, at the snap do the Chiefs have him runnning to the left side of the formation, where he doesn't do anything but stand there like an idiot blocking no one? Mebane split that double team practically before Niswanger and McIntosh come out of their stances. __________________
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08-30-2009, 06:11 AM	#20
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08-30-2009, 07:17 AM	#21
Norman Einstein MVP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Casino cash: $10004900	It didn't seem, in slow motion, to be an excessively illegal hit. Just one of those that happens. I agree the OL still sucks. I do question the OL coach, why is it that with all that beef they can't get them to follow directions? If you disect the problem we either have all but one of our OL that suck or the OL coach sucks. At this level I'd be looking for an OL coach that can patch things together. Where's Art Shell when you need him?
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08-30-2009, 07:22 AM	#22
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	It seems to be assignment problems with these guys. Last week, on a running play, LJ got stuff behind the line when there was a clear hole to run through. Hell, he may have scored. But a LB went right up the middle to tackle him in the backfield despite showing that he was blitzing right over the center's nose. The center decided it would be beter to double team the guard AWAY from the flow of the play even though Waters had him blocked fine and the LBwas right there. Just a chip would've done it, but it looked as if he didn't even see him. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $4778036	Holy shit.*Did you see how they were all just looking around looking like morons while they were tackling Cassel?
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08-30-2009, 07:59 AM	#30
Norman Einstein MVP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Casino cash: $10004900	Maybe the OL needs to start taking steroids so they can develop a little of that roid rage needed to be a bad ass OL! If Cassel comes back for the opening game of the season I hope they have shored up the blocking scheme and stuff to keep him from getting put down and out of the league.
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