Chiefs Kansas City held hostage by Absentee Ownership - Page 6

jwhit · 10-10-2012, 07:33 AM

Just my opinion feel free to ignore, but that should be the theme of saveourchiefs.

This city has been held hostage by disconnected, out-of-town ownership and that's the narrative the national (and to some degree local) media have missed. Clark Hunt lives in Texas and David Glass lives in Arkansas. They can't feel your pain or passion. They're tone deaf to the issues undermining their teams. They're riding the NFL and MLB gravy trains. They turn a profit regardless of how much effort they put into their ballclubs.

Kansas City sports fans are tired of being held hostage by Absentee Ownership.

Reerun_KC · 10-10-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

That plane looks pregnant.

the X is bad ass... I would give anyting to get typed in that bad boy.

It is almost supersonic.

**Trivers** · 10-10-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Is there a complete list of all the NFL and MLB owners and their primary residence anywhere?

"What? You mean...actually do research...and bring facts into the silly subject?"

He's just an attention whore who makes up stuff to justify his salary.

Yep, all of Chief's problems are because Hunt lives in Dallas. In this age of the internet....distance really matters???

Chiefnj2 · 10-10-2012, 09:36 AM

Clark is in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If he hires a big name GM and then lets the GM do his job, he is criticized. If he hires and GM and meddles and gets involved and things don't go well, then he is a meddlesome Dan Snyder who should keep his nose out of the operations.

**the Talking Can** · 10-10-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trivers

"What? You mean...actually do research...and bring facts into the silly subject?"

He's just an attention whore who makes up stuff to justify his salary.

Yep, all of Chief's problems are because Hunt lives in Dallas. In this age of the internet....distance really matters???

jesus, the 90's called....

Discuss Thrower · 10-10-2012, 09:44 AM

Someone needs to ask if the ownership is having trouble paying back their share of renovation money, and if that's the reason the team used tax money to pay salaries and why the team is always below the cap.

Reerun_KC · 10-10-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

jesus, the 90's called....

did you answer or send it to voice mail?

The Rick · 10-10-2012, 09:48 AM

Just my opinion, but I don't know if I can fully buy in to this narrative.

I don't think you can pin this simply on the fact that ownership doesn't live in Kansas City. Lack of passion about the team? Lack of involvement with the team? Sure on both counts. But I personally don't think it matters where they live as long as they are passionate about the team they own and are involved. Especially these days with videoconferencing and the fact that both owners can easily hop on a plane.

Living in Milwaukee, I think I have a pretty good perspective on this. When Bud Selig (and then his daughter) owned the Brewers, it was pretty much the same situation the Chiefs are in now. The team sucked and there was a disconnect with the fans. That was WITH local ownership.

Then, Mark Attanasio bought the team and completely turned things around...despite the fact he lives in L.A. The team is competitive, attendance soared, and the fan base has grown. It doesn't matter that he lives in L.A. He's hired a very good General Manager and works closely with him. It's obvious to the fans and the city that he's involved and passionate about the team through interviews on television, in the newspaper, etc. He attends games, etc. It can be done, and Attanasio is an example. It doesn't matter where they live as long as they are involved and as passionate as the fan base.

eazyb81 · 10-10-2012, 09:51 AM

Jwhit is correct of course, but there's really nothing we can do. There clearly is a ton of financial upside to owning terrible pro franchises, and neither Hunt nor Glass would even consider selling.

**wazu** · 10-10-2012, 09:56 AM

I like the approach of just shaming these owners everywhere they go. Will it work? Maybe not, but at least it provides some measure of justice.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 10-10-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

Just my opinion, but I don't know if I can fully buy in to this narrative.

I don't think you can pin this simply on the fact that ownership doesn't live in Kansas City. Lack of passion about the team? Lack of involvement with the team? Sure on both counts. But I personally don't think it matters where they live as long as they are passionate about the team they own and are involved. Especially these days with videoconferencing and the fact that both owners can easily hop on a plane.

Living in Milwaukee, I think I have a pretty good perspective on this. When Bud Selig (and then his daughter) owned the Brewers, it was pretty much the same situation the Chiefs are in now. The team sucked and there was a disconnect with the fans. That was WITH local ownership.

Then, Mark Attanasio bought the team and completely turned things around...despite the fact he lives in L.A. The team is competitive, attendance soared, and the fan base has grown. It doesn't matter that he lives in L.A. He's hired a very good General Manager and works closely with him. It's obvious to the fans and the city that he's involved and passionate about the team through interviews on television, in the newspaper, etc. He attends games, etc. It can be done, and Attanasio is an example. It doesn't matter where they live as long as they are involved and as passionate as the fan base.

It's not simply about Clark living in Dallas, it's the disconnect.. It's the fact that he doesn't see\hear\feel what is going on with his team every day... neither does the Glass family.

The Rick · 10-10-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

It's not simply about Clark living in Dallas, it's the disconnect.. It's the fact that he doesn't see\hear\feel what is going on with his team every day... neither does the Glass family.

Correct...and that's the involvement/passion angle, not place of residence.

It doesn't matter where you live. Just because I live 560 miles away doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan than someone living in KC. I watch the games on TV too, and even attend some (like last Sunday's Baltimore game).

CoMoChief · 10-10-2012, 10:08 AM

are there any NFL teams that "aren't" turning profit?

Los Pollos Hermanos · 10-10-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell

You Dallas guys should get a saveourchiefs Dallas chapter together and have some get togethers at the park up the street from Clark's house.

I don't know Clark's address.

Trust me, my buddies would do it.

Monty · 10-10-2012, 10:10 AM

Guys, I've not chimed in here, but Pioli is the most significant issue here. Fire him, all of his "decisions" go with him.

Clark gets another shot to hire a decent GM IMO, but he did consult with Marty last time, so I think everyone was caught up with Mr. Executive of the decade fanfare. Clark is an absentee owner, no doubt, but this was his first GM pick. Sure, it was a horrible pick, but I think many others would have done the same in the same situation.

Monty · 10-10-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Los Pollos Hermanos

I don't know Clark's address.

Trust me, my buddies would do it.

Hehehe...yes. they. would.

10-10-2012, 07:33 AM
jwhit Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $9994990	Kansas City held hostage by Absentee Ownership Just my opinion feel free to ignore, but that should be the theme of saveourchiefs. This city has been held hostage by disconnected, out-of-town ownership and that's the narrative the national (and to some degree local) media have missed. Clark Hunt lives in Texas and David Glass lives in Arkansas. They can't feel your pain or passion. They're tone deaf to the issues undermining their teams. They're riding the NFL and MLB gravy trains. They turn a profit regardless of how much effort they put into their ballclubs. Kansas City sports fans are tired of being held hostage by Absentee Ownership.
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10-10-2012, 09:36 AM	#78
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	Clark is in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If he hires a big name GM and then lets the GM do his job, he is criticized. If he hires and GM and meddles and gets involved and things don't go well, then he is a meddlesome Dan Snyder who should keep his nose out of the operations. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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10-10-2012, 09:48 AM	#82
The Rick Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milwaukee, WI Casino cash: $7581320	Just my opinion, but I don't know if I can fully buy in to this narrative. I don't think you can pin this simply on the fact that ownership doesn't live in Kansas City. Lack of passion about the team? Lack of involvement with the team? Sure on both counts. But I personally don't think it matters where they live as long as they are passionate about the team they own and are involved. Especially these days with videoconferencing and the fact that both owners can easily hop on a plane. Living in Milwaukee, I think I have a pretty good perspective on this. When Bud Selig (and then his daughter) owned the Brewers, it was pretty much the same situation the Chiefs are in now. The team sucked and there was a disconnect with the fans. That was WITH local ownership. Then, Mark Attanasio bought the team and completely turned things around...despite the fact he lives in L.A. The team is competitive, attendance soared, and the fan base has grown. It doesn't matter that he lives in L.A. He's hired a very good General Manager and works closely with him. It's obvious to the fans and the city that he's involved and passionate about the team through interviews on television, in the newspaper, etc. He attends games, etc. It can be done, and Attanasio is an example. It doesn't matter where they live as long as they are involved and as passionate as the fan base.
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10-10-2012, 09:51 AM	#83
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $10004900	Jwhit is correct of course, but there's really nothing we can do. There clearly is a ton of financial upside to owning terrible pro franchises, and neither Hunt nor Glass would even consider selling.
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10-10-2012, 09:56 AM	#84
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $2062295 VARSITY	I like the approach of just shaming these owners everywhere they go. Will it work? Maybe not, but at least it provides some measure of justice.
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10-10-2012, 10:10 AM	#89
Monty Award Winning Tailgater Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2171570	Guys, I've not chimed in here, but Pioli is the most significant issue here. Fire him, all of his "decisions" go with him. Clark gets another shot to hire a decent GM IMO, but he did consult with Marty last time, so I think everyone was caught up with Mr. Executive of the decade fanfare. Clark is an absentee owner, no doubt, but this was his first GM pick. Sure, it was a horrible pick, but I think many others would have done the same in the same situation.
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