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Old 01-21-2013, 04:27 PM   #1
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Belichik punted 3 times from inside the Ravens' 40. Those decisions probably cost his team more win equity than anything else he or his players did during that game. Naturally not one pundit has even mentioned it because it doesn't fit their canned storylines.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:07 PM   #2
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The NE defense is loaded with early draft picks. It's not full of slapdicks.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:10 PM   #3
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The NE defense is loaded with early draft picks. It's not full of slapdicks.
They gave up 5.7 yards per play this season, good for 24th in the league. They're below average, and not even close to elite. Belichick has done a very poor job of finding top end talent and playmakers the last several years.

Brady can't cover every wart.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:25 PM   #4
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They gave up 5.7 yards per play this season, good for 24th in the league. They're below average, and not even close to elite. Belichick has done a very poor job of finding top end talent and playmakers the last several years.

Brady can't cover every wart.
Didn't say it was good. Just saying that they've spend alot of top draftpicks on it.


I'd take one of their ILB's if they wanna get rid of one. Hightower would be fine.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:23 PM   #5
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The NE defense is loaded with early draft picks. It's not full of slapdicks.
The last truly impact defender the Pats drafted was Mayo back in '08. With ~25 round 1-3 picks since '08 the pats haven't drafted another true impact defender since. They have a ton of mediocre guys like Jermaine Cunningham and Brandon Spikes from Belichiks good ol boy network but their best player (Wilfork) was drafted back in '04.

Everyone here loves to talk about the Chiefs '08 draft. Imagine going into every single draft with that number of good picks. That's pretty much the opportunity Belichik has every year and what he has to show for it is guys like Rob Ninkovich and Steve Gregory playing major roles.

Over that same time span he's hit on 2 offensive skill players in Gronkowski and Hernandez. Not a single above average receiver. Not a single above average running back.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:38 PM   #6
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The last truly impact defender the Pats drafted was Mayo back in '08. With ~25 round 1-3 picks since '08 the pats haven't drafted another true impact defender since. They have a ton of mediocre guys like Jermaine Cunningham and Brandon Spikes from Belichiks good ol boy network but their best player (Wilfork) was drafted back in '04.

Everyone here loves to talk about the Chiefs '08 draft. Imagine going into every single draft with that number of good picks. That's pretty much the opportunity Belichik has every year and what he has to show for it is guys like Rob Ninkovich and Steve Gregory playing major roles.

Over that same time span he's hit on 2 offensive skill players in Gronkowski and Hernandez. Not a single above average receiver. Not a single above average running back.
Hightower, Solder, Ridley/Vereen, Gronk, Hernandez, McCourty. Chandler Jones has upside. Added Talib off waivers. The team is a solid team all the way around. Of course their success post-Brady will be dependent on how good his replacement is, but that's sadly the new NFL. Every coach is going to be a product of the QB. Again, it will depend on how stubborn Bellichick is on applying the Parcells way to finding late round QB steals.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:40 PM   #7
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Hightower, Solder, Ridley/Vereen, Gronk, Hernandez, McCourty. Chandler Jones has upside. Added Talib off waivers. The team is a solid team all the way around. Of course their success post-Brady will be dependent on how good his replacement is, but that's sadly the new NFL. Every coach is going to be a product of the QB. Again, it will depend on how stubborn Bellichick is on applying the Parcells way to finding late round QB steals.
He said defense.

And with all of those picks.....he hasn't drafted one impactful WR for Brady.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:46 PM   #8
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He said defense.

And with all of those picks.....he hasn't drafted one impactful WR for Brady.
No, he just drafted two monster TEs for him, and he probably realized that he can find smart, veteran receivers through FA and trade and spend his picks on players that don't come onto the market as often.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:47 PM   #9
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Someone tweeted it last night and I'm not sure if it's on here or not, but it said the 9ers and Ravens play football like it was played pre Goddell rule monster shit.


I agree with that too.
The smashmouth defenses perhaps, but offensively they're both pretty new age.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:28 PM   #10
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Hard to think of anyone on the Patriots a team would want other than Brady, Gronk, and maybe Hernandez. Lack of talent, pure and simple.
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Someone tweeted it last night and I'm not sure if it's on here or not, but it said the 9ers and Ravens play football like it was played pre Goddell rule monster shit.


I agree with that too.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:12 PM   #12
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Belichick is over rated, he's just like Pioli but a bit better but not by much.

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when you look at the Belichik approach to teambuilding it's obvious he wants 3 things:

1. He doesn't want to pay anybody

2. He doesn't want to deal with distractions

3. He'd rather win with overachievers who won't question anything than talented players who might be apt to open their mouths.
How are those bad? A bosses dream!
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heh, its interesting how everyone acts as if the Patriots are some awful team now. They have basically become the Yankees, Lakers, or Red Sox. Victims of their own success. I would kill for the Chiefs to have a run like they have had over the past 10 years.
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