Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged)

[Carlota69]

I just saw it on his Facebook status...

UPDATE:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

They were saying on 610 that the rumor is it would cost $15 mil to buyout Pioli which would be he was extended at some point. Add that to you are paying for 2 years of RAC and will have to pay for a new HC I can see why Clark is not just blowing Pioli out just yet.

And they were being conservative.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

My belief is this: Pioli signed an extension.

Therefore, Hunt has a complicated, legal mess on his hands, and he's trying to mitigate some of the overall costs involved in dismissing Pioli.

We know, for a fact, that Pioli has the reverse Midas touch when it comes to all things football. Thus, I don't want him anywhere near the process of hiring the next HC. I don't care if we're not even talking about the interview room--he has no business being a part of the traveling party for these interviews.

In short, I believe the process of firing Pioli is a complicated one. But there's no reason to complicate everything else, especially when Pioli will ultimately have no hand in them.

There were several reports that the extension he supposedly signed included an EASIER buyout, not a harder one. That's why numerous reports also circulated that Pioli refused to sign it.

As for the rest of it, I'm sure we'd all like for him to not be involved at all. The fact is, he is, and we have no idea in what capacity.

If we can't hope for the best, we really have nothing - no reason to continue being a fan.

[notorious]

Clark made a stupid mistake, and now he must pay the price.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

There were several reports that the extension he supposedly signed included an EASIER buyout, not a harder one. That's why numerous reports also circulated that Pioli refused to sign it.

As for the rest of it, I'm sure we'd all like for him to not be involved at all. The fact is, he is, and we have no idea in what capacity.

If we can't hope for the best, we really have nothing - no reason to continue being a fan.

If he wasn't extended, then the best reports are that he's only signed for one more year. This would be worse news, IMO, because you don't **** around with Fat Scott over what would be a reported $5M.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Of course not. He's going to try to get these costs down. Good approach. I sure as **** would, too.

What becomes a bit more complicated to explain away as meaningless, without a fair amount of mental gymnastics, is why Pioli would be a part of a traveling party for any types of interviews.

Pioli was interviewing Armstrong, fulfilling the Rooney rule requirement, while Clark was setting up a visit with Andy Reid on the phone.

Then they met with Koetter, told him they werent interested, and Clark headed out to Philly.

At worst, Pioli is an extra set of hands. I'm not gonna let me kids fix the computer but I sure as hell won't argue if they want to clean the toilet WHILE I'm fixing the computer.

[RunKC]

This is pretty much what happened to Pioli behind closed doors on Monday...

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

They were saying on 610 that the rumor is it would cost $15 mil to buyout Pioli which would be he was extended at some point. Add that to you are paying for 2 years of RAC and will have to pay for a new HC I can see why Clark is not just blowing Pioli out just yet.

There is not a big enough if this is true. Clark has to about have knocked himself out cold by now.

No wonder he sounded so pissed in the interviews, he had a hard time even discussing Pioli.

[Al Bundy]

This is what Scott Pioli is doing to the Chiefs and their fanbase...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Washington led the league in rushing this year for the same reason Denver led the league last season and in both cases it didn't have much to do with the running backs.

Wrong.

Look at 2010 and 2011 as proof.

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Overall the absolute must have needs of Arizona are O-line and QB. For the Chiefs it is probably secondary and QB. With QB being a wash and us in better position to fix it I would rather have the Chiefs' needs here. Arizona is still in the beginning of their version of a Cassel debacle. At least we are through with ours.

Wrong again.

The Chiefs defense was historically bad. Tyson Jackson and Glen Dorsey, while mediocre at best over their tenures in KC, will both be free agents.

The Chiefs have done an absolutely horrific job of choosing defensive lineman in the past decade, save for Jared Allen.

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

And as you said Whisenhunt is a decent coach and he only managed 4 wins including a 12 game losing streak. So either he isn't a very good coach or the talent is not what you are making it out to be.

And apparently you've never watched them play. Their offensive line is a sieve, hence Kolb's injury and injuries to ever QB they've started the past two seasons. Their running backs are shit. Yet in 2011, they were 8-8.

Their troubles lie squarely on the shoulders of their GM. Whiz will be a head coach in 2013. Bank it.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by notorious

Clark made a stupid mistake, and now he must pay the price.

And he will. Doesn't mean he can't negotiate that price.


If you can pay $5 mil for a mistake instead of $15-20, no reason not to.

[htismaqe]

Now TJ and Clinkscale, along with callers, are discussing the idea that this was all an elaborate ruse to placate fans and keep Pioli. Basically, Clark is not only a liar but an extremely diabolical one at that.

What's hilarious about this scenario?

The ONLY thing that would be more damaging to the STH base than keeping Pioli outright is to come out and say the things Clark said and THEN keep Pioli.

People need to get a grip.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wrong.

Look at 2010 and 2011 as proof.



Wrong again.

The Chiefs defense was historically bad. Tyson Jackson and Glen Dorsey, while mediocre at best over their tenures in KC, will both be free agents.

The Chiefs have done an absolutely horrific job of choosing defensive lineman in the past decade, save for Jared Allen.



And apparently you've never watched them play. Their offensive line is a sieve, hence Kolb's injury and injuries to ever QB they've started the past two seasons. Their running backs are shit. Yet in 2011, they were 8-8.

Their troubles lie squarely on the shoulders of their GM. Whiz will be a head coach in 2013. Bank it.

and he was drafted to be a special teamer.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

There is not a big enough if this is true. Clark has to about have knocked himself out cold by now.

No wonder he sounded so pissed in the interviews, he had a hard time even discussing Pioli.

It is mind-boggling to me why he would sign him to an extension 6-8 months after the first of many employment discrimination suits were filed against the Chiefs because of Pioli.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Now TJ and Clinkscale, along with callers, are discussing the idea that this was all an elaborate ruse to placate fans and keep Pioli. Basically, Clark is not only a liar but an extremely diabolical one at that.

What's hilarious about this scenario?

The ONLY thing that would be more damaging to the STH base than keeping Pioli outright is to come out and say the things Clark said and THEN keep Pioli.

People need to get a grip.

TEX should call in.

[BigChiefFan]

I really wouldn't mind Reid at all. His resume speaks for itself and we need a leader with a proven track record. Reid fits the bill and I believe Vermeil could possibly play a role in landing Reid.