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Old 03-15-2013, 07:48 AM  
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Mike and Mike Talking about Geno going #1 overall
It was just a matter of time. Obviously the Chiefs don't need him but they are helping create a market for a trade.

Apparently Jaws loves the kid.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:21 PM   #196
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Andy Reids qbs in 2009

McNabb - second overall pick
Kolb - 36th pick
Vick - free agent signing

Look familiar to what we would have if we draft Geno?

Geno at 1
We traded the 34th pick for Alex
Signed Chase Daniels in FA
You realize you're trying to equate moves made over 10 years with one offseason, right? Not to mention comparing a 33 year old who'd been drafted at 2 ten years prior with a rookie #1, a 23-year old who'd been drafted at 36 two years prior with a 29-year old trade acquisition, and a 29-year old former #1 pick with years of starts with a 26-year old undrafted player who's attempted 9 passes in his career. I think I might call that reaching a bit.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:21 PM   #197
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Andy Reids qbs in 2009

McNabb - second overall pick
Kolb - 36th pick
Vick - free agent signing

Look familiar to what we would have if we draft Geno?

Geno at 1
We traded the 34th pick for Alex
Signed Chase Daniels in FA
1 problem. Reid didn't grab McNabb, Kolb, and Vick all in 1 offseason.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:22 PM   #198
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You posted this using hindsight.
No, I'm not. I said the same thing in 2009. And so did lots of other people.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:06 PM   #199
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You posted this using hindsight.

The NFL absolutely thought the guy had upside.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:27 PM   #200
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Yes... it is VAST media conspiracy to keep the Chiefs from ever having a franchise QB.
At this point, I can see no other excuse.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:29 PM   #201
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If Alex is such a bitch that he can't handle this team drafting for the future.....then he can go some place else.
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In one case, the top of the draft QB is an over-the-hill shell of his former self and in the other, he's an unproven future-rookie. (McNabb vs GenoS)

In one case, the free agent signing is a seasoned vet with such tantalizing physical attributes he was selected 1.1 when he came out of college and in the other, he's a negligible-experience, career backup whose physical attributes kept him from getting drafted at all. (Vick vs Daniel)

In one case, the guy acquired with a 2nd round pick is a green, rookie and in the other he's a multi-year starter. (Kolb vs AlexS)

Edit: I see keg has already covered this.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:38 PM   #203
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You posted this using hindsight.

The NFL absolutely thought the guy had upside.

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Old 03-15-2013, 01:40 PM   #204
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You posted this using hindsight.

The NFL absolutely thought the guy had upside.
And the NFL thinks Alex Smith is a huge upgrade right this minute. So you are saying..................
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:40 PM   #205
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No, I'm not. I said the same thing in 2009. And so did lots of other people.
I have a lot of posts from back then hating on Cassel, too...but we aren't NFL PEOPLE and that's clearly what I said.

To act as if teams didnt think Cassel had upside in 2009, is beyond silly.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:42 PM   #206
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I have a lot of posts from back then hating on Cassel, too...but we aren't NFL PEOPLE and that's clearly what I said.

To act as if teams didnt think Cassel had upside in 2009, is beyond silly.
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And the NFL thinks Alex Smith is a huge upgrade right this minute. So you are saying..................
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:46 PM   #207
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In one case, the top of the draft QB is an over-the-hill shell of his former self and in the other, he's an unproven future-rookie. (McNabb vs GenoS)

In one case, the free agent signing is a seasoned vet with such tantalizing physical attributes he was selected 1.1 when he came out of college and in the other, he's a negligible-experience, career backup whose physical attributes kept him from getting drafted at all. (Vick vs Daniel)

In one case, the guy acquired with a 2nd round pick is a green, rookie and in the other he's a multi-year starter. (Kolb vs AlexS)

Edit: I see keg has already covered this.
In 2008, McNabb had a damn good year. Almost 4000 yards 23:11...in 2009, he had over 3500 yards and 22:10

He wasnt an over the hill, sell of his former self till he got out side of shouting distance from Reid.
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I have a lot of posts from back then hating on Cassel, too...but we aren't NFL PEOPLE and that's clearly what I said.

To act as if teams didnt think Cassel had upside in 2009, is beyond silly.
Which NFL people? I'm not talking about media types like Peter King and so forth. Which NFL GM's and head coaches (besides those in NE that were hyping him for a draft choice) thought he was worth a $63 million dollar contract? And whoever they may have been, I hope they've since been fired.

FWIW, I just went back nine pages on Google and the only people that praised this trade were, you guessed it, Boston and New England media.
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