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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. (part 2)




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Old 12-17-2013, 02:32 PM   #241
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I didn't say a word about how he was playing how someone playing and there attitude are two different things.

RGIII's attitude this year has been poor at best. Just watch when he gets knocked down his o line doesn't even help him up. Watch his post game pressers when they lose not what you want to see out of a QB
Not happy after a game about losing and a shit season and lineman not always helping him up = "Piss poor attitude"

Got it man

Let me guess? The next Vince Young, right?
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:34 PM   #242
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Figured this would be a good place for this.

Remember Avery's catch where he kinda stumbled and went down? Look at this picture:



Avery's hands have betrayed him so many times that he refused to reach for the ball there. He's no longer willing to hand-catch a pass because he doesn't trust himself to actually secure it. Instead he turned, took a bad step and cradled it into his mid-section. In so doing, he just fell the hell down and cost us a HUGE YAC play.

This is a display in how a QB can set up a WR extremely well for YAC yards and how a WR can give/take those yards. Smith put that ball in a perfect spot for Avery to reach out and grab it in stride, make a cut upfield (which was clearly the design given the downfield blocker) and perhaps take that thing all the way across the field for a score as Avery has outstanding jets.

Sometimes blaming the WRs or the O-Line really is appropriate.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:36 PM   #243
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True, but Joseph Smiff doesn't.
Think about it. Crucified in SF, and then resurrected in KC.

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Old 12-17-2013, 02:37 PM   #244
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Instead of trying to be a smartass, how about actually providing some evidence to prove him wrong?
Evidence? Like what can be gathered by watching football games instead of quoting selected stats from PFF?


I have all the evidence I need. So do 95% of the long term members of this board.

And it has nothing to do with annoying 49ers fans.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:38 PM   #245
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Figured this would be a good place for this.

Remember Avery's catch where he kinda stumbled and went down? Look at this picture:



Avery's hands have betrayed him so many times that he refused to reach for the ball there. He's no longer willing to hand-catch a pass because he doesn't trust himself to actually secure it. Instead he turned, took a bad step and cradled it into his mid-section. In so doing, he just fell the hell down and cost us a HUGE YAC play.

This is a display in how a QB can set up a WR extremely well for YAC yards and how a WR can give/take those yards. Smith put that ball in a perfect spot for Avery to reach out and grab it in stride, make a cut upfield (which was clearly the design given the downfield blocker) and perhaps take that thing all the way across the field for a score as Avery has outstanding jets.

Sometimes blaming the WRs or the O-Line really is appropriate.
You should probably create the "Donnie Avery did, does, and will always suck" thread for this.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:39 PM   #246
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For example, go back and re-read the early Alex Smith threads. Almost to a man, his current day "defenders" hated the trade. Since then, they've flip-flopped, and have the nerve to question those who still aren't 100% sold on his performance?

Priceless.
I guess this is the part i don't get, those guys - including myself to a large extent, his name did nothing for me - we're simply eventually swayed by what he's been able to accomplish.

Throw out the stats for a moment, even his good ones... the quarterback gets most of the credit for losses and wins both in this game, so when a guy comes onto a historically bad 2-14 franchise and manages to turn them into a playoff team in just one season, that's worth a lot of credit to many of us.

Did the defense carry the load early on, theres no question about it, but if Alex was out there slapdicking it up, even that defensive performance would have been for naught, you know as well as i that the QB makes or breaks modern teams, to be where we are he had to have been an excellent, steady decision maker and leader, someone the guys were confident in rallying around.

Its just seems like enough credit isn't given to what he's done here, its all been mentioned a thousand times before, but in brief... seventh offensive system in eight years, brand new team and brand new coach to gel with... those are three major obstacles to any kind of efficiency at a position that requires extreme precision.

Perosnally, i went into this year demanding playoffs, so i'm content there... but now that he's heating up, i'm starting to expect atleast one win like yourself... though i wont be irate if we don't because we've made such a huge leap in a short time.

Lets just cross our fingers and hope for atleast one playoff win and then we'll all be satisfied with 2013.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:40 PM   #247
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Asking Chiefsplanet if Alex Smith is a franchise QB is pointless for the very definition starts with the QB being a first round pick by the Chiefs and would be extremely iffy if not a top ten pick. Therefore by this definition alone, no, Alex is not a franchise QB. Just a journeyman scrub. A
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:41 PM   #248
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Lets just cross our fingers and hope for atleast one playoff win and then we'll all be satisfied with 2013.
You don't really believe this do you?
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:42 PM   #249
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I don't see any reason these guys can't be Alex Smith supporters, even though he doesn't play for their team anymore.
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You don't really believe this do you?
Did you honestly think, at this point in the season, the Chiefs would be 11-3?

Honestly?

I can honestly say that I was not expecting a 11-3 at this point.
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Did the defense carry the load early on, theres no question about it, but if Alex was out there slapdicking it up, even that defensive performance would have been for naught, you know as well as i that the QB makes or breaks modern teams, to be where we are he had to have been an excellent, steady decision maker and leader, someone the guys were confident in rallying around.
I don't understand how people can watch Eli Manning throw 5 picks, Matt Stafford go full reerun for 3 weeks and Josh McCown outplay Jay Cutler and still think that gunslinger is the only acceptable way to play QB or that Alex Smith's ability to protect the football isn't a legitimate skill.

This team isn't 11-3 with Matt Stafford at QB. He wouldn't have won us any of the games we lost and he'd have absolutely lost us the Buffalo and Dallas games at least. Flip the QBs in the Giants game and you flip the outcomes.

In a league where half the QBs are going out there and appear to be actively sabotoging their teams chance to win, how can people not appreciate Smith's steady play?
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You don't really believe this do you?
I'm pretty sure that's where most of his doubters have set the bar.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:47 PM   #253
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Did you honestly think, at this point in the season, the Chiefs would be 11-3?

Honestly?

I can honestly say that I was not expecting a 11-3 at this point.
I am pretty happy for damn sure. And yea I predicted we would win more games than SF so I had high expectations though I figured 11 wins or so was the max.

I basically meant even if we win a playoff game there will still be plenty of wounded vaginas here when it comes to Smith.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:48 PM   #254
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You don't really believe this do you?
This team is good enough to beat anyone IMO.
I wont be satisfied with anything other than a championship but after 2-14, 1 PO win I and will feel like this has been a successful season.

I do not believe that the Smith detractors will back off of Smith after only 1 PO win no matter how he plays they will say he is not good enough to win us a title.
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Not happy after a game about losing and a shit season and lineman not always helping him up = "Piss poor attitude"

Got it man

Let me guess? The next Vince Young, right?
To go on is pointless If you like his attitude then good for you. I don't that's just how I fell

Now go on telling us how Woody Johnson who trade for Tim tebow "gets it"
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We've got a young quarterback who is very, very talented," he said. "Like with all young quarterbacks, he's learning so much. I think you'll see him get better and better. I have a lot of confidence in Geno. When he gets better, everyone on the offense, defense and special teams will get better."

The owner seems to get it.
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