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Whether a "pastel" is a "painting" is a moot point. They're both "art", and that can be anything from the Mona Lisa to a dude who plops a crucifix into a jar of piss. Art is subjective. It's painting, drawing, sculpting, kinetic, macaroni glued on construction paper, architecture, whatever the **** you want it to be. IIRC the Mona Lisa is painted on a wood board. Some of Rembrandt's most expensive works are tiny pencil sketches. A one-sheet poster for the original "Frankenstein" movie is a giant lithograph done with machinery, and yet some consider it "art" enough to make it a million-dollar poster. Some of the most expensive modern "art" is indeed actual painting, but it's nothing more than a red circle with a yellow line through it (which some stuffed-shirt will tell you encompasses "man's insignificance" or some other total bullshit).
Hell, personally I expand the definition to include objects constructed for films, such as the sci-fi props sold on the TV auction show "Hollywood Treasures"; if a master craftsman sculpts a monster, and it's a one-of-a-kind, and it's used in a film, why isn't that "art" any more than the Mona Lisa? |
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05-04-2012, 10:25 AM | #78 |
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looks like a 3rd grader painted it .....
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Just got off the phone with the Pastel Society of America. I also just spoke with the president of the International Association of Pastel Societies. I know, I took this too far. Here is what they both said almost word for word.
"The medium does not matter. It is still a painting. If the work covers the whole canvas, which The Scream does, then it is a painting. Ask your friend if he applies oil paint to a canvas with an exacto knife if it is still called a painting, or is it a knifing? The pigment that is in Pastels is the exact same as the pigment in oil paintings. If a pigment is being applied to a surface, it is considered a painting, no matter the medium, wet or dry, hard or soft." I think that is pretty much case closed. She also went on to say that it is not wrong to call it just a "Pastel", but to say it is not a painting is wrong. |
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So, whos your guy's favorite artist?
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She said if the majority of the canvas is not covered, it is a drawing or sketch. Like if 50% of the canvas is showing and there is only like an outline or doodle in the middle, then it is a drawing or sketch. In case of "The Scream", it is a Pastel Painting. She said 99% of the Pastel Societies in America, which she is in charge of, will all agree that is true.
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On the famous ones, it's hard to argue against Monet. His works are far more impressive in person than on a computer. Van Gogh has a great style, but I can't even figure out how Monet makes his stuff.
On a more affordable level, I have one of this guy's paintings and really like his style: https://artonawhim.com/artistcategor...D=TFX&selCat=0 Ours looks a lot like this, but it's a different mountain range. I would classify it as a painting.
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