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wutamess · 11:43 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090128/...hild_s_remains

GALVESTON, Texas – Jurors wept Tuesday watching a woman describe how teaching her 2-year-old daughter proper manners turned into a daylong torture session in which the toddler was beaten with belts, dunked in cold water and flung across a room so violently that she died.
Kimberly Trenor, 20, detailed the abuse in a videotaped statement played for jurors during the first day of her capital murder trial.

Trenor, 20, told investigators in the statement that she hit her daughter with a thick leather belt to teach her to say "please" and "yes, sir."

The little victim was dubbed "Baby Grace" by investigators who worked to identify her decomposed remains after the body was found in a plastic container in October 2007 on a tiny island in Galveston Bay.

Trenor's 25-year-old husband, Royce Zeigler II, is to be tried separately on murder charges. His attorney argues that Trenor is responsible for the child's death.

But Trenor insisted it was her husband who became so enraged when the toddler didn't behave better that he hurled her several times across a room, ultimately fracturing her skull and killing her.

"I said we have to get her to a hospital. (Zeigler) said, 'No we can't. We'll go to jail,'" Trenor said in the videotape, crying. "There came a point where she stopped breathing. He started doing CPR on the floor. He took her ... and handed her over to me. I could just feel her going cold."

At the defense table, Trenor's eyes teared up as she watched the videotape on a large screen. Several jurors wiped away tears.

Riley Ann Sawyers tried to stop her mother and stepfather from beating her to death by reaching out to her mother and saying, "I love you," assistant district attorney Kayla Allen told jurors earlier in the day during her opening statement.

The toddler's pleas didn't stop her mother from brutalizing her, the prosecutor said.

Allen said that on July 25, 2007, Trenor and Zeigler disciplined Riley by whipping her with a belt, pushing her head against a pillow and holding her head under water. She said Zeigler tossed Riley across the room, fracturing her skull. An autopsy concluded the fractures caused her death.
Allen said the adults did nothing to help even as Riley lay dying.
Instead, the couple bought a plastic container, stuffed Riley's body inside and stored it in a shed for a month or two before setting it out to sea, the prosecutor said.

Defense attorney Tommy Stickler Jr. told the jury that Trenor never intended to kill her daughter and that things just "spun out of control."
Stickler portrayed Trenor as a scared 19-year-old girl who had moved to Texas from Ohio to marry a man she met while playing an online game. She said Riley's father, her former boyfriend, had assaulted her and Zeigler was her "knight in shining armor."

"I don't want to use the word accident, but this wasn't something that was intentional," Stickler said.

Trenor could receive an automatic sentence of life in prison without parole if convicted of capital murder. The jury could also convict her of a lesser charge.

Prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty because they didn't think they could prove that either one would be a future danger, as required.

kcpasco · 01-28-2009, 12:18 AM

You boys hold that piece of shit down, i'll get the hacksaw and pliers.

beach tribe · 01-28-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

The thing that makes this so wrong, is that we can all to a certain extent remember what it was like to be that innocent and trusting.
And these two betrayed that ultimate trust.

And I'll ****in' say it; all of these wackjobs come from ****ing Texas or Louisiana, or Tennessee, or some other banjo-thumper state.

Oh bull ****in shit. I can find a violent nasty piece of shit in every state country, or continent. Your stereo types are bull shit.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-991649741.html Michigan

http://www.azdor.org/ Boston

http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=9593424 Arizona

http://fightcps.com/2007/02/06/michi...a-foster-home/ Michigan

http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/California-Police-Kill-Man-who-Beat-Baby-to-Death/1$41839 California

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tepmother.html New York

It goes on, and on. Next time THINK before you say something stupid.

Ebolapox · 01-28-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Oh bull ****in shit. I can find a violent nasty piece of shit in every state country, or continent. Your stereo types are bull shit.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-991649741.html Michigan

http://www.azdor.org/ Boston

http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=9593424 Arizona

http://fightcps.com/2007/02/06/michi...a-foster-home/ Michigan

http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/California-Police-Kill-Man-who-Beat-Baby-to-Death/1$41839 California

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tepmother.html New York

It goes on, and on. Next time THINK before you say something stupid.

yep. there's ****head pieces of shit in every state.

**Bugeater** · 01-28-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

The thing that makes this so wrong, is that we can all to a certain extent remember what it was like to be that innocent and trusting.
And these two betrayed that ultimate trust.

And I'll ****in' say it; all of these wackjobs come from ****ing Texas or Louisiana, or Tennessee, or some other banjo-thumper state.

Like Ohio?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-28-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

the mother is just as responsible. fry both of em. ****, death is too good for these people. torture maybe.

Can you imagine those two when and if they achieve the moment of stark clarity necessary to realize what they have done?

They'll wish for death.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-28-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

yep. there's ****head pieces of shit in every state.

Yes, yes; sorry to hurt feelings, but per capita this kind of shit is a bible-belt smorgasbord.

Deal with it.

beach tribe · 01-28-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Yes, yes; sorry to hurt feelings, but per capita this kind of shit is a bible-belt smorgasbord.

Deal with it.

You show me some statistics. I call BS. Every time I google the shit New York, DC, and Michigan shows up.

Ebolapox · 01-28-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Can you imagine those two when and if they achieve the moment of stark clarity necessary to realize what they have done?

They'll wish for death.

if there's truly a hell, that has to be it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-28-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

You show me some statistics. I call BS. Every time I google the shit New York, DC, and Michigan shows up.

Kansas City has a higher murder rate per capita than Los Angeles.

Ebolapox · 01-28-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Yes, yes; sorry to hurt feelings, but per capita this kind of shit is a bible-belt smorgasbord.

Deal with it.

deal with what? I'm not offended at all.

however, tribe is right. there's absolutely no solid evidence that this happens more, per capita, in any 'redneck' state than it does any other 'normal' state.

newsflash: there's rednecks in almost every fifty state. there are future darwin award winners and shitty human beings in every state.

we, as a species, have the capacity for absolutely wonderful things (selfless acts of kindness, sacrifice, and many others) as well as a capacity for the truly depraved (this specific thing comes to mind, serial killers, mothers who kill their children)... matter of fact, it's absolutely biased for you to pin it on ANY specific state, let alone a set of 'backward-ass redneck states.' stop trying to say it's a specific state that has idiots, they're every****ingwhere.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-28-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

if there's truly a hell, that has to be it.

Yep, sitting in a cell for life or on death row, contemplating that brief moment in time that you destroyed what could have been years of three lives worth living.

Growing old, having grand kids and maybe great-grand kids; completely gone and no chance for redemption in a civilized world.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-28-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

deal with what? I'm not offended at all.

however, tribe is right. there's absolutely no solid evidence that this happens more, per capita, in any 'redneck' state than it does any other 'normal' state.

newsflash: there's rednecks in almost every fifty state. there are future darwin award winners and shitty human beings in every state.

we, as a species, have the capacity for absolutely wonderful things (selfless acts of kindness, sacrifice, and many others) as well as a capacity for the truly depraved (this specific thing comes to mind, serial killers, mothers who kill their children)... matter of fact, it's absolutely biased for you to pin it on ANY specific state, let alone a set of 'backward-ass redneck states.' stop trying to say it's a specific state that has idiots, they're every****ingwhere.

I shouldn't have tagged that on to your post. I will however look at this because now my curiosity is fully up.

And I'm not talking about across the board murder. I'm talking about parents killing their young children.

We're gonna' find out. You wanted the best, and you got the best; I am on this ****ing case until it's done. It's too late to start tonight, but I'll hit it tomorrow at work.

**Bugeater** · 01-28-2009, 12:55 AM

Did anyone mention she was from Ohio?

Ebolapox · 01-28-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I shouldn't have tagged that on to your post. I will however look at this because now my curiosity is fully up.

And I'm not talking about across the board murder. I'm talking about parents killing their young children.

We're gonna' find out. You wanted the best, and you got the best; I am on this ****ing case until it's done. It's too late to start tonight, but I'll hit it tomorrow at work.

sweet, I'm anxious to see your results. good luck getting comprehensive data on that, though, unless there's a website that tracks these sorts of things. google is a magical god that we worship, but hesheit can't answer all of life's questions unless it is we that know what we're truly looking for and what to ask hesheit and her many facets.

just so we're specific, parents killing young children are the only criterion. can it be step-parents? how bout' grandparents? I'd think relatives killing or maiming their young in any way would qualify, and you'd get more data...

part of me wonders if your viewpoint (which is valid, if viewed through the following scope) comes from the fact that it happens to be higher profiled cases in the 'banjo-picking' states. and if we're truly going by banjo-picking states, do we only include the southern states? how bout' west virginia? the rest of teh Appalachian states? do trailor park slums in idaho count? there's a lot of banjos in these fifty states, pardnah. happy hunting.

Ebolapox · 01-28-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Did anyone mention she was from Ohio?

them damned hillbillies!

01-27-2009, 11:35 PM
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $5321637	Nuthooks+++: This'll make the manliest of men throat tighten http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090128/...hild_s_remains GALVESTON, Texas – Jurors wept Tuesday watching a woman describe how teaching her 2-year-old daughter proper manners turned into a daylong torture session in which the toddler was beaten with belts, dunked in cold water and flung across a room so violently that she died. Kimberly Trenor, 20, detailed the abuse in a videotaped statement played for jurors during the first day of her capital murder trial. Trenor, 20, told investigators in the statement that she hit her daughter with a thick leather belt to teach her to say "please" and "yes, sir." The little victim was dubbed "Baby Grace" by investigators who worked to identify her decomposed remains after the body was found in a plastic container in October 2007 on a tiny island in Galveston Bay. Trenor's 25-year-old husband, Royce Zeigler II, is to be tried separately on murder charges. His attorney argues that Trenor is responsible for the child's death. But Trenor insisted it was her husband who became so enraged when the toddler didn't behave better that he hurled her several times across a room, ultimately fracturing her skull and killing her. "I said we have to get her to a hospital. (Zeigler) said, 'No we can't. We'll go to jail,'" Trenor said in the videotape, crying. "There came a point where she stopped breathing. He started doing CPR on the floor. He took her ... and handed her over to me. I could just feel her going cold." At the defense table, Trenor's eyes teared up as she watched the videotape on a large screen. Several jurors wiped away tears. Riley Ann Sawyers tried to stop her mother and stepfather from beating her to death by reaching out to her mother and saying, "I love you," assistant district attorney Kayla Allen told jurors earlier in the day during her opening statement. The toddler's pleas didn't stop her mother from brutalizing her, the prosecutor said. Allen said that on July 25, 2007, Trenor and Zeigler disciplined Riley by whipping her with a belt, pushing her head against a pillow and holding her head under water. She said Zeigler tossed Riley across the room, fracturing her skull. An autopsy concluded the fractures caused her death. Allen said the adults did nothing to help even as Riley lay dying. Instead, the couple bought a plastic container, stuffed Riley's body inside and stored it in a shed for a month or two before setting it out to sea, the prosecutor said. Defense attorney Tommy Stickler Jr. told the jury that Trenor never intended to kill her daughter and that things just "spun out of control." Stickler portrayed Trenor as a scared 19-year-old girl who had moved to Texas from Ohio to marry a man she met while playing an online game. She said Riley's father, her former boyfriend, had assaulted her and Zeigler was her "knight in shining armor." "I don't want to use the word accident, but this wasn't something that was intentional," Stickler said. Trenor could receive an automatic sentence of life in prison without parole if convicted of capital murder. The jury could also convict her of a lesser charge. Prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty because they didn't think they could prove that either one would be a future danger, as required. Last edited by wutamess; 01-27-2009 at 11:43 PM..
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