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**Nzoner** · 11:09 AM

somehow someway land Peyton Manning I will be done as a fan until his tenure is over.I can't really explain it except to say my dislike for him and his family runs very deep and there is no way I could ever cheer for or back him.

Anyone else have similar feelings or would you be all for seeing him in a KC uniform?

His regular season success, though, does not mean that the future Hall of Famer should be absolved from criticism for his team’s repeated failures in January.

He has racked up seven one-and-done postseason exits—the most of any quarterback in NFL history. Overall, he owns a 9-10 record in 11 playoff appearances, whereas Eli is an incredible 9-3 with two Super Bowl MVP awards.

**Nzoner** · 03-01-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

Either, really.

So Willie Davis and J.J. Birden can be mentioned in the same breath as Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne?

Please elaborate on your thinking as I'm really trying to see your point.

**Nzoner** · 03-01-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I'm not a big fan of signing old QBs or anything, but if your argument is "he only won one super bowl", well......that's dumb.

No,my argument is that overall his postseason record is the worst in NFL history.

Brock · 03-01-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

No,my argument is that overall his postseason record is the worst in NFL history.

And Trent Green never won a playoff game in KC and IT WAS ALL HIS FAULT.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 03-01-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

No,my argument is that overall his postseason record is the worst in NFL history.

It's would be nice to have a post season record but we have Matt Cassel.

Sofa King · 03-01-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

So Willie Davis and J.J. Birden can be mentioned in the same breath as Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne?

Please elaborate on your thinking as I'm really trying to see your point.

I'm talking the team as a whole. KC's defense was much better than anything the Colts have put together in the last decade. Other than 2 blowouts in '94, the KC defense held teams to low scores.

mikey23545 · 03-01-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

somehow someway land Peyton Manning I will be done as a fan until his tenure is over.I can't really explain it except to say my dislike for him and his family runs very deep and there is no way I could ever cheer for or back him.

Anyone else have similar feelings or would you be all for seeing him in a KC uniform?

I bet you can hardly wait for puberty, huh?

**Nzoner** · 03-01-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

I'm talking the team as a whole. KC's defense was much better than anything the Colts have put together in the last decade. Other than 2 blowouts in '94, the KC defense held teams to low scores.

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The one year he did hold up the Lombardi Trophy, a vaunted Tony Dungy defense covered up Manning’s poor playoff stat-line: three touchdowns and seven interceptions.

FWIW,do you realize Trent Dilfer also had 3 td passes in the Ravens 2000 postseason run to the Super Bowl championship?

Sofa King · 03-01-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

FWIW,do you realize Trent Dilfer also had 3 td passes in the Ravens 2000 postseason run to the Super Bowl championship?

I'm not going to get into a discussion that involves Trent ****ing Dilfer. Those tend to get really reeruned really quickly.

Kind of like the "you don't need to draft a QB in the first because of Tom Brady" arguments.

Ultra Peanut · 03-01-2012, 11:01 AM

hahahahahaha what

nzoner, you are a hoot and a holler

**Nzoner** · 03-01-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

I'm not going to get into a discussion that involves Trent ****ing Dilfer. Those tend to get really reeruned really quickly.

Kind of like the "you don't need to draft a QB in the first because of Tom Brady" arguments.

I'm just giving you the facts,you brought the great defense into the discussion and I simply showed you that in Manning's one Super Bowl run and win his td numbers were the same as Trent ****ing Dilfer.

LOCOChief · 03-01-2012, 11:07 AM

WTF is the hatred for the Manning family all about, they run over your kitty or something? I could understand if you were a pats fan or something and the brothers kept spanking you but aside from that, seems like a pretty good family.

**Nzoner** · 03-01-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LOCOChief

WTF is the hatred for the Manning family all about, they run over your kitty or something? I could understand if you were a pats fan or something and the brothers kept spanking you but aside from that, seems like a pretty good family.

Like I said in the OP just can't really explain it,however,from an NFL postseason stats perspective I have updated the OP with a very good read.

blsilks · 03-01-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

somehow someway land Peyton Manning I will be done as a fan until his tenure is over.I can't really explain it except to say my dislike for him and his family runs very deep and there is no way I could ever cheer for or back him.

Anyone else have similar feelings or would you be all for seeing him in a KC uniform?

His regular season success, though, does not mean that the future Hall of Famer should be absolved from criticism for his team’s repeated failures in January.

He has racked up seven one-and-done postseason exits—the most of any quarterback in NFL history. Overall, he owns a 9-10 record in 11 playoff appearances, whereas Eli is an incredible 9-3 with two Super Bowl MVP awards.

See you later

Chiefnj2 · 03-01-2012, 11:26 AM

My problems with Manning.

- Injury aside, there comes a time when age catches up to players. It catches up quickly. There is a reason why teams that are fairly well managed give up on their "star" QBs and move on.

- The injury. His neck isn't the issue. It's the nerve. Will it regenerate? Even if it does heal, could physical contact inflame the area and cause it to degrade again? I understand he receives the best medical care that money can buy, but I don't think anyone can offer any type of reasonable guaranty regarding his nerve. There is a reason why he hasn't thrown the ball in public the last year or so.

- The system. Is Daboll familiar with Manning's system? Anyone other than arguable Lilja (who everyone wants replaced) and Jim Bo Bob good ole boy? A rusty QB, no players familiar with the system, a new OC, KC incumbents having a 4th OC in 4 years. It just doesn't spell smooth transition.

- The affect. Will it cause Hunt/Pioli not to address QBOTF early in any coming drafts? If Manning can't play, will KC face a similar fate as the Colts with no other QB able to play the system? Don't say, 'hey KC will have the 1st draft pick then' because as a Chiefs fan you know we don't have that luck. KC's D will be good enough to win 7 or so games and keep the team out of the top 5.

- Has bringing in a very aged QB been effective for other teams in recent history, or do the better teams draft and develop? You know the answer.

lcarus · 03-01-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever

It's would be nice to have a post season record but we have Matt Cassel.

He has a post season record. It's 0-1. I'll take Peyton and his playoff record please.

01-12-2012, 10:03 AM
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	My problems with Manning. - Injury aside, there comes a time when age catches up to players. It catches up quickly. There is a reason why teams that are fairly well managed give up on their "star" QBs and move on. - The injury. His neck isn't the issue. It's the nerve. Will it regenerate? Even if it does heal, could physical contact inflame the area and cause it to degrade again? I understand he receives the best medical care that money can buy, but I don't think anyone can offer any type of reasonable guaranty regarding his nerve. There is a reason why he hasn't thrown the ball in public the last year or so. - The system. Is Daboll familiar with Manning's system? Anyone other than arguable Lilja (who everyone wants replaced) and Jim Bo Bob good ole boy? A rusty QB, no players familiar with the system, a new OC, KC incumbents having a 4th OC in 4 years. It just doesn't spell smooth transition. - The affect. Will it cause Hunt/Pioli not to address QBOTF early in any coming drafts? If Manning can't play, will KC face a similar fate as the Colts with no other QB able to play the system? Don't say, 'hey KC will have the 1st draft pick then' because as a Chiefs fan you know we don't have that luck. KC's D will be good enough to win 7 or so games and keep the team out of the top 5. - Has bringing in a very aged QB been effective for other teams in recent history, or do the better teams draft and develop? You know the answer. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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