Chiefs Say what you want about Cassel, but...

RedThat · 08-14-2010, 06:03 PM

in all honesty, the OL reeks of complete sh*tness.

Most notably O'Callaghan and Niswanger. Those are the two guys that need a ticket out of here. Most definately without question or doubt.

So why not start Wiegman? What does this team have to lose? Why not start Richardson in the beginning of yesterdays game rather than late in the 4th which I thought was a boneheaded move by coach Haley.

I really don't know what this coaching staff sees in Niswanger and O'Callaghan? At the very least, this team should be starting the best players right now or the players that have more upside just to mask the level of sh*tiness that Niswanger and O'Callaghan display.

In the off-season they need to address this area badly. But I've once said this in seasons past and here I am saying it again, the OL is going to be a problem in the regular season. Oh well, it's just the same ole sh*t. nothing but a repetitive theme that gets frustrating.

And there shouldn't be any discussion about this potentially being a good offense or even compare this team to the 2002 Chiefs because the OL comparison is apples and oranges, and this offense is light years away from being as good.

FAX · 08-14-2010, 06:05 PM

I, for one, am weary of blaming Cassel's problems on the o-line. Feeling pressure? Get rid of the ball. QB 101.

FAX

**Dave Lane** · 08-14-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I, for one, am weary of blaming Cassel's problems on the o-line. Feeling pressure? Get rid of the ball. QB 101.

FAX

I don't have the intense hate for Cassel others do but if he does that (like yesterday) then everyone screams Capt Dumpoff! Seriously other than becoming Manning is there anyway for a average QB to win here?

**DeezNutz** · 08-14-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I don't have the intense hate for Cassel others do but if he does that (like yesterday) then everyone screams Capt Dumpoff! Seriously other than becoming Manning is there anyway for a average QB to win here?

No. And the sad thing is that we're hoping for "average" with Cassel. "Average" QBs don't win in this league very often. Have we been duped into thinking this is acceptable? The threshold we strive to now?

We need a competent game manager, and build the pieces around him? People who subscribe to that line of thought can shove it right up their asses.

milkman · 08-14-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No. And the sad thing is that we're hoping for "average" with Cassel. "Average" QBs don't win in this league very often. Have we been duped into thinking this is acceptable? The threshold we strive to now?

We need a competent game manager, and build the pieces around him? People who subscribe to that line of thought can shove it right up their asses.

Sadly, what we are debating here is one who sucks vs. another who sucks, and the level of suck.

This is what we are stuck with.

Thanks to the almighty executive of the decade.

**DeezNutz** · 08-14-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Sadly, what we are debating here is one who sucks vs. another who sucks, and the level of suck.

This is what we are stuck with.

Thanks to the almighty excuitive of the decade.

Yep. With considerable help from the previous dumbass who was also too much of a ****ing chickenshit to draft and develop a true franchise QB.

**Bane** · 08-14-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Sadly, what we are debating here is one who sucks vs. another who sucks, and the level of suck.

This is what we are stuck with.

Thanks to the almighty executive of the decade.

Nice.
And we'll still have to go out and draft a QB and start all over after the Casshole experiment is over.

Coogs · 08-14-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I don't have the intense hate for Cassel others do but if he does that (like yesterday) then everyone screams Capt Dumpoff! Seriously other than becoming Manning is there anyway for a average QB to win here?

I don't have that big of problem with the dumpoffs. What I do have a problem with is the way he missed Pope. An NFL QB has to make that play. And most all NFL QB's do make that play. Our guy doesn't. And not just last night... but it is a re-occuring theme that shows up damn near every single game.

milkman · 08-14-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I don't have the intense hate for Cassel others do but if he does that (like yesterday) then everyone screams Capt Dumpoff! Seriously other than becoming Manning is there anyway for a average QB to win here?

The problem isn't that he checks down.

The problem is that is he slow to make reads.

Croyle checked down a few times, but he was quick to make his reads and gave the receiver he checked down to a chance to run after the catch.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-14-2010, 06:08 PM

BS Aaron Rodgers was sacked a league-high 51 times last season. I'm done making excuses for him.

MadMax · 08-14-2010, 06:10 PM

Can we not agree we have the absolute worst starting QB in the league?

milkman · 08-14-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

Can we not agree we have the absolute worst starting QB in the league?

I'd say that there are at least 40 better QBs right now, at the least.

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-14-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'd say that there are at least 40 better QBs right now, at the least.

Id bet Cassel finishes is the top 20, for shits and giggles, if you want to wager on it.

milkman · 08-14-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Id bet Cassel finishes is the top 20, for shits and giggles, if you want to wager on it.

Top 20 what?

He's going to have a decent QB rating because he's Checkdown Cassel.

We'd have to find a common ground, because I'm not a stats guy.

I believe in the old saying their there are lies, damn lies, and stats.

Pioli Zombie · 08-14-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'd say that there are at least 40 better QBs right now, at the least.

Name them.

08-14-2010, 06:03 PM	Topic Starter
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Say what you want about Cassel, but... in all honesty, the OL reeks of complete shtness. Most notably O'Callaghan and Niswanger. Those are the two guys that need a ticket out of here. Most definately without question or doubt. So why not start Wiegman? What does this team have to lose? Why not start Richardson in the beginning of yesterdays game rather than late in the 4th which I thought was a boneheaded move by coach Haley. I really don't know what this coaching staff sees in Niswanger and O'Callaghan? At the very least, this team should be starting the best players right now or the players that have more upside just to mask the level of shtiness that Niswanger and O'Callaghan display. In the off-season they need to address this area badly. But I've once said this in seasons past and here I am saying it again, the OL is going to be a problem in the regular season. Oh well, it's just the same ole sh*t. nothing but a repetitive theme that gets frustrating. And there shouldn't be any discussion about this potentially being a good offense or even compare this team to the 2002 Chiefs because the OL comparison is apples and oranges, and this offense is light years away from being as good.
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