Is RGIII a good fit in KC??

[InChiefsHeaven]

Before you all jump all over me, my initial gut is NO. But this article outlines 4 teams that would be horrible for him, and then goes into why KC would be ideal for him...it's an interesting read, and hopefully not a Q...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rg3-s-p...024536909.html

The team that fits

The Kansas City Chiefs.

Coach Andy Reid spent more than a decade on a similar roller coaster with Donovan McNabb. There were rough times when McNabb was passive aggressive, said the wrong thing at the wrong time, rubbed some teammates the wrong way and annoyingly had his mother at seemingly every practice. Sometimes he was a joy off the field. Other times he was tone deaf and awkward. Some guys loved his personality. Others thought he was (pick one: a diva, square, phony, too commercial, etc.).

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Andy Reid and Alex Smith (AP)

Andy Reid and Alex Smith (AP)

Sound familiar?

That said, there was no doubting that he was tougher on the field than Griffin. He had a physique that could take a lot of punishment. And from a short-to-long perspective, he was a more complete passer, too. But his game wasn't always that way. It took McNabb six years before he had a completion rate better than 58.4 percent or a quarterback rating better than 86. People forget that he was a significant work in progress well into his third season in the NFL. And Reid developed him inside his West Coast system. Just like he has with his current quarterback, Alex Smith – not to mention Smith's backup, Chase Daniel. And lest we forget, Reid helped pull Michael Vick's career off the scrap heap, too.

Griffin's skills would translate well into Reid's system. Reid is equipped to handle Griffin's so-called peculiar nature and fit inside a locker room. McNabb, Vick and Smith have all presented unique challenges at different points in their careers. There's a vast amount of experience in coaching up that threesome, and solving whatever is blocking Griffin isn't the biggest challenge of the group. Frankly, overhauling Vick's game after his prison stint was one of the most impressive coaching jobs I've seen since I started covering the NFL 15 years ago.

And Reid isn't the only positive in this equation, either. The locker room and culture in Kansas City is stable. There are solid leaders in place. There is no anarchy brewing beneath the surface. And moreover, from a numbers standpoint, the media spotlight isn't nearly as intense as Washington. The organization even has the right general manager in place for Griffin – John Dorsey. Consider: Dorsey sat ringside in Green Bay for the Brett Favre era and played a huge part in the drafting of Aaron Rodgers. He has seen a lot in that span. From the high times to awful tension and awkwardness. He was also part of a Packers personnel staff that drafted solid career quarterbacks like Ty Detmer (11 NFL seasons), Mark Brunell (18), Matt Hasselbeck (entering his 17th), Aaron Brooks (seven) and Matt Flynn (entering his eighth). From a skills standpoint, that's a versatile group.

Finally, consider the numbers. If Washington holds on to Griffin through this season and he becomes a free agent in 2016, it means Griffin could potentially join the Chiefs when Alex Smith is entering the home stretch of his career at 32. Smith would also be going into the second year of his four-year extension. Even if that extension played out the full length, it would give Griffin three years in Reid's system and the opportunity to confidently take the reins at 29. And if Griffin outplays Smith prior to that, Smith's deal becomes fairly easy to exit starting in 2017.

Of course, all of this would hang on Griffin having to exhibit patience. He'd have to show he was willing to go in and learn, develop and blossom. That's likely going to be an unpalatable scenario for both him and his agent, Ben Dogra, who will argue that Griffin has already shown he is starting material in the past and shouldn't take anything less. That's their prerogative. But if it's all about ideal situation and what's best in the long run, Kansas City is the spot.

[Dayze]

I'd rather have Trent richardson at QB.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Please tell us you didn't really just compare Peyton Manning to RG III.

Are you some special kind of stupid? (Apparently you just proved my point when I mentioned Manning.)

Where did I compare Manning to RG3?

[Mother****erJones]

Sure I'd take a shot on him. Nothing of value is going to traded for him. Smith is a placeholder nothing more. This wouldn't be a terrible idea. With that said I trust Reid and Dorsey.

[Dante84]

If only there were a 30 page thread on this

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Nope he seems like a head case and he breaks easily.

This.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

You're all the same geniouses who said Manning was washed up because he went to Dungver rather than KC.

Heck yes, I'd take him. I think Andy could straighten him out. I also think we have the pieces that really cater to RG3's toolset. RG3, JC, Davis, DAT, Maclin, and Kelce? Heck, with just DAT & Maclin you've pretty much replicated the secret to his college success. In KC, you have three more weapons than he had in college.

I'd love to see him in the Red and Gold. Let him sit behind Alex for a couple of years and learn. He's fixable. The dude isn't stupid; he completed his undergrad degree in three years.

Washington and Cleveland will ruin any QB.

I agree with this (and the points in the OP) but I only want him here if Reid and Dorsey don't feel that Murray has a good chance to be the future. And only if RGIII is willing to sit for a year or two in the process.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

You're all the same geniouses who said Manning was washed up because he went to Dungver rather than KC.

Heck yes, I'd take him. I think Andy could straighten him out. I also think we have the pieces that really cater to RG3's toolset. RG3, JC, Davis, DAT, Maclin, and Kelce? Heck, with just DAT & Maclin you've pretty much replicated the secret to his college success. In KC, you have three more weapons than he had in college.

I'd love to see him in the Red and Gold. Let him sit behind Alex for a couple of years and learn. He's fixable. The dude isn't stupid; he completed his undergrad degree in three years.

Washington and Cleveland will ruin any QB.

He might not be book stupid, but apparently he's read defense stupid.

[srvy]

He would fit right in with Commings and Harris as often injured.

[Urc Burry]

If he can return to his rookie form hell yeah I would want him. And anyone is going to be 'injury prone' if they took the hits he did. He has got to learn to get down ala Russell Wilson. There is zero risk if he gets cut and we bring him on

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

If he can return to his rookie form hell yeah I would want him. And anyone is going to be 'injury prone' if they took the hits he did. He has got to learn to get down ala Russell Wilson. There is zero risk if he gets cut and we bring him on

Except RG3's injury history dates back to college and not being rushed to played with a ****ed up knee by Shanahan.

[DaneMcCloud]

In a vacuum, I'd say that KC would be the perfect fit and opportunity.

Unfortunately, life isn't lived in a vacuum.

He obviously has talent and a great arm. But he was set up to fail the minute he was drafted because of Dan Snyder. He didn't treat RGIII like a player or the developmental prospect that he was when selected in 2012 but a buddy and a trophy.

When a player is constantly praised and put on a pedestal by the team owner and held in higher regard than the other 52 and the coaching staff, bad things are bound to happen. I don't think that RGIII is "stupid" or incapable of learning to read defenses, it's just that there's such a sense of entitlement, put in place by the owner, that he's not been forced to focus on his career. He's a play thing for a wealthy guy. It's insane.

If he was willing to come to KC on a minimal contract, keep his mouth shut, refuse to speak to the media and learn from Reid & company, he might have a chance to resurrect his career.

But I think the likelihood of that happening is less than 1%.

[DJ's left nut]

If he'd come here, then he'd be a good fit.

The mere act of signing here would be a sign that he's humbled himself somewhat. If RGIII came to KC, he'd do so knowing that he's a backup for 2 years. The Chiefs really can't get out from under Smith's deal in '15 or '16 so that's what you're dealing with there. So if RGIII is willing to come here at all, it shows that he's not still the same guy that is calling himself the best QB in the NFL and thinks he can win on his own. Just as important, RGIII would get 2 years to get his body right. The kid has been injured, yes, but he's also constantly out there banged up. And the injuries are probably developing bad habits. Some time as a backup would be good for him.

Now, you put him in Reid's system - or more critically you give him to Reid. Reid's the kind of guy that tailors his offense to his personnel (well...he tailors his passing game ot his personnel). When he had Vick and Jackson, he was bombing away. When he had McNabb and crap, he was playing a system more like we have now. When he had McNabb and Owens, he would open it up more. When it comes to the passing game, Reid's a guy that's going to make his weapons work and not stubbornly adhere to one approach. I believe he could do a lot of things with a toolbox like RGIII has.

Finally, for everything Smith isn't, he's a consummate professional. He does all the intangible quarterback things perfectly. I think his teammates love playing with him. If RGIII can observe and absorb some of those things that have made Smith so universally respected, it would also do a lot to help him. And if he does all that while paying his dues in KC, there will be some built in respect from the veterans that are here.

Yeah, I'd take a gamble on him, but I don't think he'd do it. I don't think he's humbled himself to that point just yet. I think he genuinely believes he can be a stud QB in this league and because of that, I don't think he'll go anywhere with a starter firmly entrenched for the next 2 years.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Manning is washed up

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I'd take a gamble on him, but I don't think he'd do it. I don't think he's humbled himself to that point just yet. I think he genuinely believes he can be a stud QB in this league and because of that, I don't think he'll go anywhere with a starter firmly entrenched for the next 2 years.

He still can be, just not in Washington. The way Shanahan treated him as well Snyder making him above the coach/GM have ****ed up his development.

[notorious]

It was Washington FFS.


Snyder will only win if the NFL goes capless again, and even then it will be luck.