Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Accidents Caused by Sudden acceleration.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Guru

It sickens me that a company can get away with that.

Major news tonight

http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/26/news...toyota_recall/

Toyota suspends sales of eight models
By Blake Ellis, contributing writerJanuary 26, 2010: 7:30 PM ET


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Toyota Motor Sales USA, Inc. said Tuesday it is asking dealers to temporarily suspend sales of eight models.

The company's sales suspension is part of a recall announced last week to correct a problem that could cause the accelerator pedal to stick.



"Helping ensure the safety of our customers and restoring confidence in Toyota are very important to our company," said Toyota USA group vice president Bob Carter. "This action is necessary until a remedy is finalized."

About 2.3 million vehicles will be affected by the recall, Toyota (TM) said Tuesday in a statement.

The automaker also said that it will halt the production of vehicles in certain production facilities in Canada, Indiana, Kentucky and Texas during the week of Feb. 1 to "assess and coordinate activities."

The vehicles covered under the recall are:

2009-2010 RAV4, Corolla, Matrix, 2005-2010 Avalon, certain 2007-2010 Camry, 2010 Highlander, 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia.

The new recall involving sticking accelerator pedals is separate from an on-going recall of 4.2 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles due to the risk of pedal entrapment because of a loose floormat.

About 1.7 million Toyota Division vehicles have been affected by both recalls.

Toyota owners with questions should call Toyota's customer service line at 800-331-4331.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Extra Point

The drive-by-wire method of contolling throttle plate angle is totally dangerous. The cost to change all these vehicles could be devastating, but mandatory. Seems that the command signal for accelerating must be due to a short in the board, and the boards need to be redesigned and replaced. Whether the board is in the throttle assembly or external, or integral to the PCM, this shit needs to be fixed.

Yes, it is dangerous, and seeing that my wife drives one of these vehicles every day it concerns me.

Originally Posted by Earthling

For the life of me I can't understand how the floor mat could cause acceleration unless it was on top of the accelerator pedal and pressing it down. I have both foreign and domestic vehicles and have no agenda. I will be sure to talk to my daughter and niece about what they should do if an acceleration issue happens while they are at the wheel and thank you for this heads up.

I have both foreign and domestic vehicles as well, and I have no agenda.

Originally Posted by Bwana

Another thing I don't understand, is the brakes have more doninance than the engine. Even if the engine is going all out, people should be able to use the brakes to stop, pull over and shut off the key. If you don't panic, there shouldn't be a death involved.

I know I've mentioned this before, and possibly even in this thread, but have you ever watched a NASCAR short track race where they have the camera showing the brake rotor as they are braking into the turns? They are instantly glowing red hot the second the driver hits the brake pedal.

Some of these cars have 24V V6 engines that are pushing 250hp, you really think if you're already going 60 mph and the vehicle starts going WOT you're going to overpower it with your brakes and get it stopped before they overheat? It's not going to happen.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Some of these cars have 24V V6 engines that are pushing 250hp, you really think if you're already going 60 mph and the vehicle starts going WOT you're going to overpower it with your brakes and get it stopped before they overheat? It's not going to happen.

Will it warp the rotors, yes, but it will stop the vehicle.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Will it warp the rotors, yes, but it will stop the vehicle.

These stories seem to telling the opposite. And I don't see how you can say that for sure anyway, have you ever tried stopping a car going 60+ mph at WOT with your brakes? All I'm saying is if the brake fluid overheats, you're done, and it doesn't take as long as you may think.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

These stories seem to telling the opposite. And I don't see how you can say that for sure anyway, have you ever tried stopping a car going 60+ mph at WOT with your brakes? All I'm saying is if the brake fluid overheats, you're done, and it doesn't take as long as you may think.

Yes

That being said, if your wife drives one of the cars in question, I would go over what to do if if should happen to her. Neutral is your friend.....

[teedubya]

I think I saw a Toyota "Quality" ad the other day. I chuckled. Nice Try.

[Mosbonian]

It would be interesting to see what percentage of vehicles that Toyota has manufactured that this recall entails. I guess I am a lucky person because no Toyota vehicle I have ever owned has had mechanical problems to the extent of the story shown.

I like the fact that Toyota has recalled and given rebates on the Trucks that rusted the frame....I like that when a recall is made there is only 1/10 th the hassle I have had when I had a recall on my Chrysler and Ford products.

mmaddog
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[Mosbonian]

I will say, as an aside, I am very impressed with the direction that Ford has taken. They are slowly but surely climbing back to profitability, the Management seems to have a business plan that makes sense, and they are getting good marks overall on quality of product.

I would love to see an American-based auto maker survive and thrive. Competition is always good for the consumer.

mmaddog
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[JD10367]

Originally Posted by mmaddog

I will say, as an aside, I am very impressed with the direction that Ford has taken. They are slowly but surely climbing back to profitability, the Management seems to have a business plan that makes sense, and they are getting good marks overall on quality of product.

I would love to see an American-based auto maker survive and thrive. Competition is always good for the consumer.

mmaddog
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The problem is that American cars have no identity. Aside from, historically, "Found On Road Dead" or "Fixed Or Repaired Daily". Most cars look alike. People assume Japanese = higher dependability. Their cars are constantly given high rankings. People are afraid to buy American; if it's more expensive than Japanese, they assume they're getting ripped off, and if it's less expensive than Japanese, they assume it's a cheap POS, so it's a no-win situation.

I think the American companies need to trim brands and combine resources, and make very individually-attractive cars that stand out on the road and make a name for themselves (e.g. Toyota Prius).

[SLAG]

i have not read all of this thread, but, there was a Ford Expedition that was coming out of the carwash and claimed that the vehicle was accelerating without reason

here is the result:


the red honda was orig. parked infront of the building the same way the cop cars are parked but right in front of the hole

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by SLAG

i have not read all of this thread, but, there was a Ford Expedition that was coming out of the carwash and claimed that the vehicle was accelerating without reason

here is the result:


the red honda was orig. parked infront of the building the same way the cop cars are parked but right in front of the hole

Until there is a pattern of Expos experiencing these problems, isolated incidents such as that one will more than likely be attributed to driver error.

[|Zach|]

That would be scary as shit.

[Inspector]

My Yugo has NEVER had this problem.

Of course it quit running 14 years ago when it surpassed 5476 miles on the odometer. Made it a very safe car that way.

[Pushead2]

this is pretty scary

[Bugeater]

Holy shit.