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Old 03-14-2013, 11:12 AM  
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:24 PM   #436
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How many playoff games have they won since '93?
Gee, I don't know. How many?



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Old 03-14-2013, 02:24 PM   #437
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For what?
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:25 PM   #438
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Yes,. What does it gain?

Answer: not a damn thing
Right. Going from 2-14 to 8-8 means absolutely nothing. The team didn't improve, fans weren't more optimistic, guys didn't gain experience from winning - no, none of that.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:26 PM   #439
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Tamba Hali IS an outstanding athlete are you nuts. Find a guy as big as him with that kind of stamina that goes until the whistle. He has blood and sweat coming off him in the 4th quarter in blowout games and hes still making a team's LT earn their pay check that week.

There was a gaping hole at LBer behind him, literally, he was playing next to a bum at DE when our starter got hurt, he had an awful safety that cant come up in the box and play the run or do ANYTHING. And Stanford Routt, Jalil Brown, Javier Arenas to his right... need I say more

there's a reason they signed guys like Dunta Robinson and Mike Devito. Run support, guys that will come up in the box and bang next to Tamba. I may not like the signings but Tamba will still come to work against every teams highest paid offensive lineman, their LT, protecting their most important position in the game, their QB. And that offense has to game plan specifically for him and that.... every week.
You define outstanding athlete different than I. You described what i would call a high motor guy. Tamba has always been a hard worker, high motor guy who developed as a technician.

Outstanding natural athlete? Not IMO. That would be reserved for guys like Aldon Smith or JPP
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:26 PM   #440
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It doesn't require trading multiple 2nds for alex smith for a team to go 8-8.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:26 PM   #441
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Right. Going from 2-14 to 8-8 means absolutely nothing. The team didn't improve, fans weren't more optimistic, guys didn't gain experience from winning - no, none of that.
And what if we go 8-8 in 2014?
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:26 PM   #442
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8-8 makes TrueFans happy.
Really? Prove it. Prove how going 8-8 makes "True Fans" happy.

What the **** IS a "True Fan", anyway?
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:27 PM   #443
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Gee, I don't know. How many?



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0. Thats the point. How is that "better" than we already had?
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:29 PM   #444
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And what if we go 8-8 in 2014?
I would say it depends on why the Chiefs went 8-8, don't you?

Do you recall the Vermeil years? 6-10, 8-8, 13-3, 7-9, 10-6, right? Well, the Chiefs were trending upwards, then down, then slightly up again. They had a very narrow window in which to win and they couldn't get it done. Why? Because they lacked the necessary components on defense.

Personally, I believe this team is fairly balanced offensively and defensively, especially after the recent offseason moves. The draft is still seven weeks away and it's likely they'll add more talent to the offense and defense.

I'd prefer to watch the team in 2013, with what, at least six new starters and possibly as many as 10, before worrying about going 8-8 in 2014.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:29 PM   #445
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Really? Prove it. Prove how going 8-8 makes "True Fans" happy.

What the **** IS a "True Fan", anyway?
For the same arguements that were already made in the thread. They will win a few bragging rights games, maybe beat the Raiders at home for once, leave the home games happy a few times and hope some day we trade for an aging Bretty Favre/Joe Montana to put us over the hump. Then they can say at least we ain't (insert whatever team sucks in the division) while the Broncos are playing meaningful games year in and year out.

A true fan will always point to the exception to the rule to justify their football opinion or justify a move by saying well he is better then "x" player like a 300lb fat ass saying at least I'm not a 400lb fat ass.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:32 PM   #446
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So you'd go Jordan?

Long-term, he may be the better pick. However, if you think that you can get real push from your D-line with one of those first three, that's more impactful than a ROLB would be, especially when we already have Houston who's logical next step is to supplant Hali.
I think I would go Ziggy over Jordan. It's a calculated risk because you are betting on pure potential but, man, if he pulls it together with his raw talent and drive, you would really have something special. Jordan may be "safer" but his ceiling is a lot lower.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:34 PM   #447
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For the same arguements that were already made in the thread. They will win a few bragging rights games, maybe beat the Raiders at home for once, leave the home games happy a few time and hope some day we trade for an aging Bretty Favre/Joe Montana to put us over the hump. Then they can say at least we ain't (insert whatever team sucks in the division) while the Broncos are playing meaningful games year in and year out.
Well, the Chiefs aren't the Broncos, are they? The Chiefs didn't win two Super Bowls in the 90's and the Chiefs couldn't even get Peyton Manning to talk to them.

So, I think it's wise that Reid and Dorsey but their best efforts forward into making the Chiefs franchise respectable. Respectable. That's a start, right?

How about making the Chiefs a respectable team - no longer a punch line or a laughing stock. If that can happen, then maybe at some point, the Chiefs won't be denied meetings with superstar players and maybe at some point, the Chiefs will put a consistent team on the field, one that makes fans of other franchises jealous.

Contrary to popular belief, that can't happen one week after the League Year begins.

And with all of that said, I don't think there's a single fan of the Chiefs that aspires to 8-8. I really don't.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:34 PM   #448
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:36 PM   #450
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Well, the Chiefs aren't the Broncos, are they? The Chiefs didn't win two Super Bowls in the 90's and the Chiefs couldn't even get Peyton Manning to talk to them.

So, I think it's wise that Reid and Dorsey but their best efforts forward into making the Chiefs franchise respectable. Respectable. That's a start, right?

How about making the Chiefs a respectable team - no longer a punch line or a laughing stock. If that can happen, then maybe at some point, the Chiefs won't be denied meetings with superstar players and maybe at some point, the Chiefs will put a consistent team on the field, one that makes fans of other franchises jealous.

Contrary to popular belief, that can't happen one week after the League Year begins.

And with all of that said, I don't think there's a single fan of the Chiefs that aspires to 8-8. I really don't.
The team was made respectable without the addition of an injury prone backup as qb.
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