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Old 12-03-2008, 01:00 AM  
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Your Draft: first three rounds.
Try to keep it relatively realistic.

What are your three picks. Assume that we have the #5 spot in the Draft, just to be conservative.

Feel free to explain your picks.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:31 AM   #61
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But to counter that, keep in mind that the Giants have been loading up on DEs. Justin Tuck and Mattias Kiwanuka would start for the majority of teams in this league. That is a rare case of a team that is 4-deep in DEs. Keep in mind that the Giants had umenyiora and Strahan when they drafted Tuck and Kiwanuka. This is a team that had 3 outstanding DEs that decided to use a first round pick on Kiwanuka.

So I think using the Giants is a bad example because this is a team that is loaded at DE only because they used a lot of high picks on DEs. It's not a team that were lucky to have good enough backups to effectively replace Umenyiora and Strahan.
Yeah but didn't they draft Kiwanuka and plan as using him as a LB? They ended up moving him back to DE because Usi got hurt.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:33 AM   #62
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So you would take 2 MLBs? In the first round at that.
Who says they both have to be MLBs?

One of them cant play the outside?
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:33 AM   #63
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Who says they both have to be MLBs?

One of them cant play the outside?
So we're drafting people.....just to move their positions?
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:36 AM   #64
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So we're drafting people.....just to move their positions?
It's about improving the LBing core.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:36 AM   #65
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He has a very good first step, but the frustrating thing is that he comes up empty against good competition.
Yeah, I know.

If he finished plays, he'd be at the top of the draft.

But teams won't be able to resisit that speed and the overall potential he'll bring.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:41 AM   #66
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It's about improving the LBing core.
Then you grab a MLB in rounds 1 or 2 and then look at grabbing a OLB in the 3rd or 4th round. You don't grab 2 MLBs and then move one to OLB. We have more than just 2 holes to fill.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:41 AM   #67
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Who says they both have to be MLBs?

One of them cant play the outside?
No they are both natural MLB. If you want to draft an OLB then draft one who actually has played that position.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:42 AM   #68
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But to counter that, keep in mind that the Giants have been loading up on DEs. Justin Tuck and Mattias Kiwanuka would start for the majority of teams in this league. That is a rare case of a team that is 4-deep in DEs. Keep in mind that the Giants had umenyiora and Strahan when they drafted Tuck and Kiwanuka. This is a team that had 3 outstanding DEs that decided to use a first round pick on Kiwanuka.

So I think using the Giants is a bad example because this is a team that is loaded at DE only because they used a lot of high picks on DEs. It's not a team that were lucky to have good enough backups to effectively replace Umenyiora and Strahan.
Kiwi was a late first rounder, Tuck was a third rounder, Osi was one of the last picks of the second round.

Those aren't terribly high picks to spend on ends.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:46 AM   #69
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:47 AM   #70
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WR, LB, OL

Rinse & repeat.
There are no WRs in this draft worthy of a top five pick, and tackle is too saturated of an area for us to get any bites on a trade down scenario.

Michael Crabtree is not Larry Fitzgerald.
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No they are both natural MLB. If you want to draft an OLB then draft one who actually has played that position.
But whos to say that? you?

Have you ever considered putting your attention to the other things i.e. a players attributes and strengths and realize he could possibly play another position?

AND I also said, S or MLB in the first. I didn't exactly say we had to pick 2 MLB's. It could be S in the 1st, and MLB in the 2nd. Or course you on the other hand are looking for an argument it's blatintly obvious
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Kiwi was a late first rounder, Tuck was a third rounder, Osi was one of the last picks of the second round.

Those aren't terribly high picks to spend on ends.
But it still says a lot when the team has 2 outstanding DEs and a very solid backup DE in Tuck and they still chose to invest in a DE.

Point being, you can never have too many DEs. But you sure as hell can have too little.
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1. DE Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. C Alex Mack, California
3. MLB Dannell Allerbe, Georgia
Ellerbe is someone I'm hoping is around later, maybe the general weakness of Georgia's defense will push his stock down...

i haven't seen much from johnson, but he has the measurables...
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If we're staying at our spot...with no trades.

1st. Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas - We need to get a pass rushing DE bad. Keep Hali at his spot and stick Orakpo in as Allen's replacement. Hali and Turk can work in a rotation and hopefully Brian Johnston and Jason Babin can be a decent rotation behind Orakpo.

2nd. Alex Mack, C, Cal - I'd love to grab Brandon Spikes here but I think he goes in the late 1st round. So I'll go with a position that we need to get filled up. Grab Mack and immediately start him at Center. Move Niswanger to RG where he actually plays better. That shores up two positions with one draft pick. Now all we need is a RT.

3rd. Dannell Ellerbe, MLB, Georgia - Since I can't grab Spikes in the 2nd ...I'll go with Ellerbe in the 3rd. I haven't seen a lot of Georgia games but everywhere I read....says this kid is good. Yeah I know....I'm stupid.

Now obviously this would change depending on how we go in Free Agency. If we can sign Suggs to be our DE then I would try and trade down for Maualuga, Laurinaitis or Mays. If we grab a MLB like Vilma in FA then I would go Orakpo in the 1st, Mack in the 2nd and Derrick Williams (WR Penn State) in the 3rd.
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