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Old 10-02-2013, 09:35 AM  
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Ranking the starters By Gregg Rosenthal
1. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos
2. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
3. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
4. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
5. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
6. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
7. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
8. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears
9. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
10. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
11. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions
12. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
13. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins
14. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
15. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
16. Eli Manning, New York Giants
17. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
18. Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins
19. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
20. Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
21. Terrelle Pryor, Oakland Raiders
22. Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
23. Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns
24. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
25. Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs
26. Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals
27. Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
28. Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
29. EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
30. Geno Smith, New York Jets
31. Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
32. Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville Jaguars

He explains his choices in the article...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...e-starters-132

Do you guys agree?

Most people don't...
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:22 AM   #31
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The scrambling he's had to do definitely assists his numbers.
yea, exactly like it does Andrew Luck in fantasy

they have similar numbers, in fact Smith is actually beating him and everyone slobs on Lucks knob

Smith should be just under Luck and Ryan imo
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:26 AM   #33
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Considering the QBs by themselves and what they actually contribute to the team, those rankings are fairly accurate IMO...
This. With the exception of Hoyer most of the QB's ahead of Alex have had a more significant impact on whether or not their team wins or loses a football game.
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1.Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos
2.Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
3.Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
4.Tom Brady, New England Patriots
5.Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons

6.Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
7.Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
8.Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears
9.Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
10. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions

11.Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
12.Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
13.Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
14.Eli Manning, New York Giants
15.Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs

16.Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
17.Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
18.Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins
19.Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
20.Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins

21.Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
22.Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
23.Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
24.Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
25.Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals

26.EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
27.Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns
28.Terrelle Pryor, Oakland Raiders
29.Geno Smith, New York Jets
30.Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
31.Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
32.Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville Jaguars
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This. With the exception of Hoyer most of the QB's ahead of Alex have had a more significant impact on whether or not their team wins or loses a football game.
I don't know, you can see Smith's impact by looking at last year's performance. His scrambling on 3rd down has been a major factor in us being 4-0. He's not incredible, but he's been between solid to good the last few weeks.
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1.Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos
2.Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
3.Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
4.Tom Brady, New England Patriots
5.Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons

6.Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
7.Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
8.Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears
9.Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
10. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions

11.Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
12.Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
13.Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
14.Eli Manning, New York Giants
15.Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs

16.Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
17.Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
18.Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins
19.Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
20.Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins

21.Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
22.Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
23.Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
24.Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
25.Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals

26.EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
27.Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns
28.Terrelle Pryor, Oakland Raiders
29.Geno Smith, New York Jets
30.Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
31.Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
32.Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville Jaguars
Swap Rivers and Ryan, Stafford and Cutler, Manning and Smith, Palmer and Bradford and i think the list makes sense.
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The first 19 are the best quarterbacks, I wouldn't rank them in that order that he has but he has that much right.
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11.Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
12.Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
13.Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
14.Eli Manning, New York Giants
15.Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs
Not so sure about the precise order of this QB chunk... but your overall list is SO MUCH BETTER than that moron in the OP.
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I don't know, you can see Smith's impact by looking at last year's performance. His scrambling on 3rd down has been a major factor in us being 4-0. He's not incredible, but he's been between solid to good the last few weeks.
Yup our 3rd down conversions wouldn't look half as good as they did without Smith's feet.
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1.Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos
2.Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
3.Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
4.Tom Brady, New England Patriots
5.Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons

6.Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
7.Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
8.Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears
9.Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
10. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions

11.Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
12.Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
13.Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
14.Eli Manning, New York Giants
15.Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs

16.Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
17.Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
18.Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins
19.Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
20.Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins

21.Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
22.Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
23.Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
24.Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
25.Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals

26.EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
27.Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns
28.Terrelle Pryor, Oakland Raiders
29.Geno Smith, New York Jets
30.Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
31.Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
32.Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville Jaguars
Yeah, I can move a couple of guys by a spot or two but for the most part this list is pretty good.
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This. With the exception of Hoyer most of the QB's ahead of Alex have had a more significant impact on whether or not their team wins or loses a football game.
You are correct. Eli Manning is having a significant impact on the Giants losing.
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I don't know, you can see Smith's impact by looking at last year's performance. His scrambling on 3rd down has been a major factor in us being 4-0. He's not incredible, but he's been between solid to good the last few weeks.
It's also his incompetence that keeps other teams in games until the very end. Eagles and Dallas game being a prime example of what I'm talking about.
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This. With the exception of Hoyer most of the QB's ahead of Alex have had a more significant impact on whether or not their team wins or loses a football game.
Yup. The Chiefs offense isn't asking much out of the QB position. How they're using Alex tells you a lot about his true abilities. Make short 7yd throws, don't turn it over, play safe, get Charles the ball. Alex Smith is doing that pretty well. But that doesn't necessarily make him a top 10 QB. It just means that the Chiefs know very well his strengths and limitations, and have done a good job of catering the offense to that. How they're handling Alex is what's producing the wins. Alex isn't really lighting it up with stats or carrying the offense with his abilities. He's just executing his minimal role well.
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You are correct. Eli Manning is having a significant impact on the Giants losing.
Yeah, he's quite the game changer.
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You are correct. Eli Manning is having a significant impact on the Giants losing.
To many, aggressive = good.

It doesn't matter that the aggression has cost the Giants their season or that Flacco pretty much lost lost the game for the Ravens against an inferior football team last week.

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