For all you football experts that wanted Croyle...it's all about the Oline - Page 5

chris · 10-07-2007, 01:32 PM

With this line, Farve, Brady, whomever, would look bad.

Forget about Croyle.

Shift your boring whining to the awful Oline.

keg in kc · 10-07-2007, 04:01 PM

Actually, some of us believe that putting Croyle in there would open up things for the running game, because he provides a downfield threat that opposing defenses would have to respect. With Damon Huard in there, whether we run or pass, there's no reason for the defenders to worry about anything more than 5-10 yards downfield. Which is why they sit on every short route all game long tee'd-up and ready to decapitate whatever hapless receiver is tasked with catching the latest donald duck fired from flamin' Damon's mighty peashooter.

jjjayb · 10-07-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Wasn't an issue last year. We're not gonna start magically blocking people just because Croyle gets in there.

But you better believe the safeties won't cheat up if they think we can throw the ball deep on them. With Huard in there they are consistently cheating up to stop the run. They don't need to drop back to help the corner because we NEVER throw it deep with Huard in as QB.

**Scorp** · 10-07-2007, 04:01 PM

Huards time is done, move on GoChiefs.

Hammock Parties · 10-07-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

But you better believe the safeties won't cheat up if they think we can throw the ball deep on them. With Huard in there they are consistently cheating up to stop the run. They don't need to drop back to help the corner because we NEVER throw it deep with Huard in as QB.

It's not an issue. Last year LJ ran for 1800 frickin' yards.

Molitoth · 10-07-2007, 04:02 PM

With our shitty line, we need a QB that can scramble and move around in or out of the pocket. Huard just falls down or throws the checkdown everytime. Not only that but his passes are always so high, I'm suprised a receiver hasn't been injured yet.

jjjayb · 10-07-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

It's not an issue. Last year LJ ran for 1800 frickin' yards.

Until Indy showed the world that all you have to do is stack it up against LJ and he can't run. That's what every team has done to us since.

Coach · 10-07-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

No. What's a disaster is having your quarterback throw four interceptions and watching your team lose by 35 points.

Unopposed to a quarterback who has already thrown six INT's in 5 games? Not to mention that Damon provides no upside for the franchise?

I'd rather have Brodie in there, throwing 4 INT's and watching my team lose by 35 points. It's all about getting experience.

Besides, people aren't paying tickets just to see Damon Huard, Mr. Goebbels.

donkhater · 10-07-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Wasn't an issue last year. We're not gonna start magically blocking people just because Croyle gets in there.

Funny thing about run blocking. It's a lot easier when six guys only need to block 6-7 guys insted of 8-9.

No, Jacksonville didn't load up, but the safeties were cheating. Gonzo made them pay early, but after they realized Huard was only going to him or bigfoot in the flat the game was over.

Meanwhile Denver is about to go down 34-3.

keg in kc · 10-07-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Wasn't an issue last year.

It wasn't?

Larry's average went down almost a full yard/carry in '06. He had to carry the ball 80 extra times, and set an NFL record, just to match his '05 yardage totals.

So is this year an aberration, or the continuation of a downward spiral?

donkhater · 10-07-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

Until Indy showed the world that all you have to do is stack it up against LJ and he can't run. That's what every team has done to us since.

If it works, why deviate from it?

I'm not sure Cincy won't keep LJ down next week. If solari and Herm are determined to run the ball instead of taking the obvious passing lanes that are open, I'd stack the line too.

Ya think that's what LJ is pissed about?

RedThat · 10-07-2007, 04:08 PM

I thought the O-line was decent in pass protecting, but horrible in runblocking.

It's not a great O-line we have, nor good either...It's a very below average one.

Our running game sucks for 2 reasons: 1. The runblocking is awful, and 2. LJ isn't running with much confidence. I noticed on most runs, LJ doesn't run with authority. So when your O-line isn't blocking well, and your RB is doing that, that's a pretty bad combination if you ask me?

*The last drive in the game, there was that one play that had me convinced Croyle should start over Huard...Yeah, I think it's time. I like the fact that Croyle is much faster then Huard, he has more of an ability to scramble and flush himself out of the pocket, and frikk'n throw that ball down the field with great spin and pretty much accuracy. Great pass to Bowe that got us in Jacksonville territory. Now, had that been Huard, that play wouldn't have happened.

Chiefs would have been shutout.

siberian khatru · 10-07-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

No. What's a disaster is having your quarterback throw four interceptions and watching your team lose by 35 points.

You THINK that's what's gonna happen, but we won't KNOW that unless Croyle plays. We KNOW what Huard's all about, because he keeps showing it week after week.

We have to find out what Croyle's about. We have to let him make some mistakes, and see if he gets better the more he plays. Then we'll know if we have a young QB we can play a couple of years from now, or whether we need to find another one in the draft soon.

Floridafan · 10-07-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

No. What's a disaster is having your quarterback throw four interceptions and watching your team lose by 35 points.

Oh I get it. It's better if you only lose by 10 points. Let me see if I get this right. If I lose by 35 that's unacceptable. But if I only lose by 10 that's better because it makes us look better in the standings?

I don't post that often but based on what I've read from you in this post your 50,000 posts must really have some serious football knowledge and wisdom in them.

You need to pull Damon's wanker out of your hind end.

We need to start Brodie and see what we've got.

We're not going anywhere anyway so why not.

siberian khatru · 10-07-2007, 04:10 PM

Let me ask you this, C.E. Cutler just threw another INT. He throws at least one every week.

Is that acceptable? Should the Broncos be playing him?

Coach · 10-07-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

You THINK that's what's gonna happen, but we won't KNOW that unless Croyle plays. We KNOW what Huard's all about, because he keeps showing it week after week.

We have to find out what Croyle's about. We have to let him make some mistakes, and see if he gets better the more he plays. Then we'll know if we have a young QB we can play a couple of years from now, or whether we need to find another one in the draft soon.

Croyle is a 2nd-year player making mental mistakes - easily correctable.

Huard is an 11th-year player making PHYSICAL mistakes - might not be correctable at all.

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Actually, some of us believe that putting Croyle in there would open up things for the running game, because he provides a downfield threat that opposing defenses would have to respect. With Damon Huard in there, whether we run or pass, there's no reason for the defenders to worry about anything more than 5-10 yards downfield. Which is why they sit on every short route all game long tee'd-up and ready to decapitate whatever hapless receiver is tasked with catching the latest donald duck fired from flamin' Damon's mighty peashooter.
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Scorp Whiskey Tango Foxtrot OVER! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hell Casino cash: $6629000	Huards time is done, move on GoChiefs. __________________
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Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $2874969	With our shitty line, we need a QB that can scramble and move around in or out of the pocket. Huard just falls down or throws the checkdown everytime. Not only that but his passes are always so high, I'm suprised a receiver hasn't been injured yet.
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10-07-2007, 04:08 PM	#71
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I thought the O-line was decent in pass protecting, but horrible in runblocking. It's not a great O-line we have, nor good either...It's a very below average one. Our running game sucks for 2 reasons: 1. The runblocking is awful, and 2. LJ isn't running with much confidence. I noticed on most runs, LJ doesn't run with authority. So when your O-line isn't blocking well, and your RB is doing that, that's a pretty bad combination if you ask me? *The last drive in the game, there was that one play that had me convinced Croyle should start over Huard...Yeah, I think it's time. I like the fact that Croyle is much faster then Huard, he has more of an ability to scramble and flush himself out of the pocket, and frikk'n throw that ball down the field with great spin and pretty much accuracy. Great pass to Bowe that got us in Jacksonville territory. Now, had that been Huard, that play wouldn't have happened. Chiefs would have been shutout.
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siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2424950	Let me ask you this, C.E. Cutler just threw another INT. He throws at least one every week. Is that acceptable? Should the Broncos be playing him?
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