Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.? - Page 18

BigCatDaddy · 07-11-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I had a friend who did that. Doubled up two cycles of pro hormones at the same time taking one in the morning one in the afternoon and one at night. Got huge. Started to hurt. Got small. Now he can only eat dr approved items or it kills his kidneys. I can get you in touch with him for your friend if you want.

That's odd. I didn't think you could "feel" impaired kidney function unless you had a stone.

BigCatDaddy · 07-11-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lead_block

I don't know much about injectable steroids/pro-hormones so please enlighten me. Which is safer injectable or oral pro-hormones (I think all pro-hormones are oral?)

I took H-Drol 2 years ago and it didn't really do much for me, I gained probably 10-15 lbs on bench and lost it all within a couple weeks of being off..I even used Nolvadex that I had left over from my rat experiment.

I took Havoc a few months later and same shit. I haven't took anything since and am not interested in taking anything until I actually put on some natural mass. Most likely I won't consider taking anything for a few years.

I just read in this thread that pro-hormones are much worse for you and I thought it would be completely backwards cause the injectable stuff seems to be the only mass that sticks around. I have a friend that keeps taking pro-hormones and it drives me nuts cause he thinks the shit is candy.

Anyways, I'm just wanting to be more educated. I'm not gathering information, so I can find a dealer and start shooting up.

You're going to lose most of what you gain. Prohormones/Steroids are great for a short term boost, but I'm more of a fan of Testosterone runs. You're friend needs to get off or he's going to do seroius damage to his liver. Most of those should be ran at 6 weeks max followed by a PCT and 3-4 month break.

lead_block · 07-11-2013, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You're going to lose most of what you gain. Prohormones/Steroids are great for a short term boost, but I'm more of a fan of Testosterone runs. You're friend needs to get off or he's going to do seroius damage to his liver. Most of those should be ran at 6 weeks max followed by a PCT and 3-4 month break.

Yeah, I regret what I even took and knowing they're as dangerous as test should help me in convincing him to stop. I ran the H-Drol and Havoc cycles with him but nothing since. He has done a number of cycles since and I refuse to participate which makes him cool it a bit. College is a time for experimenting and I took the pro-hormone plunge, so I don't feel too guilty.

BigCatDaddy · 07-12-2013, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lead_block

Yeah, I regret what I even took and knowing they're as dangerous as test should help me in convincing him to stop. I ran the H-Drol and Havoc cycles with him but nothing since. He has done a number of cycles since and I refuse to participate which makes him cool it a bit. College is a time for experimenting and I took the pro-hormone plunge, so I don't feel too guilty.

They are harsher than test. Test is about as safe as you can get.

TheGuardian · 07-12-2013, 10:36 AM

Injectables, while scary to some, are about 1000000000 safer and easier on the body than orals. Especially pro-hormones. Make no mistake, PH's are REAL steroids. They REALLY work. The problem is, they are much harder on the liver than REAL steroids too. Anavar, winny, etc are pretty easy on the liver. Things like anadrol, halo, and dbol are a little bit rougher on it, however the liver is pretty sturdy and can really take a beating and recover pretty fast once you're off.

However if you are going to use something and don't care about legalities it's always best to find a source and then get the real thing rather than pro hormones.

You should also get blood work done regularly and keep your diet toight like a tiger.

**MahiMike** · 07-16-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Injectables, while scary to some, are about 1000000000 safer and easier on the body than orals. Especially pro-hormones. Make no mistake, PH's are REAL steroids. They REALLY work. The problem is, they are much harder on the liver than REAL steroids too. Anavar, winny, etc are pretty easy on the liver. Things like anadrol, halo, and dbol are a little bit rougher on it, however the liver is pretty sturdy and can really take a beating and recover pretty fast once you're off.

However if you are going to use something and don't care about legalities it's always best to find a source and then get the real thing rather than pro hormones.

You should also get blood work done regularly and keep your diet toight like a tiger.

I shoot testosterone and B12 myself. I would never do the cream since I have family at home. Don't want it to rub off on them.

BigCatDaddy · 07-15-2013, 06:41 AM

So are the people that are opposed to people using PED's also opposed to people riding motorcycles? If not, why?

**loochy** · 07-15-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So are the people that are opposed to people using PED's also opposed to people riding motorcycles? If not, why?

It's because of the arbitrary law thing.

To me, this is very similar to the pot vs alcohol/cigarettes debate.

BigCatDaddy · 07-15-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

It's because of the arbitrary law thing.

To me, this is very similar to the pot vs alcohol/cigarettes debate.

But this has been covered. I can buy a 4-6 week cycle of legal steroids on Amazon for $50 or less.

Silock · 07-15-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

But this has been covered. I can buy a 4-6 week cycle of legal steroids on Amazon for $50 or less.

Injectables or pro hormones?

BigCatDaddy · 07-15-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock

Injectables or pro hormones?

Not injectables, but some transdermals, prohormones, and designer steroids. Prohormones convert to steroids in the body where as the designer steroids are already active. You can get both. The DS's were just old steroids that big pharma didn't patent because they had better stuff patented already. Patrick Arnold (former Balco chemist) brought this type of stuff to the market about 10-15 years ago.

Fish · 07-15-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So are the people that are opposed to people using PED's also opposed to people riding motorcycles? If not, why?

Opposing PEDs means you must oppose every other activity that involves personal risk? That's a pretty dumb hyperbola.

BigCatDaddy · 07-15-2013, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Opposing PEDs means you must oppose every other activity that involves personal risk? That's a pretty dumb hyperbola.

Why? What's the difference between opposing someone who uses PED's recreationally and someone that's rides a motorcycle recreationally? Let's assume for the sake of arguement that the PED's are of the legal variety.

Marcellus · 07-15-2013, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Why? What's the difference between opposing someone who uses PED's recreationally and someone that's rides a motorcycle recreationally? Let's assume for the sake of arguement that the PED's are of the legal variety.

Closer analogy would be riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

BigCatDaddy · 07-15-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Closer analogy would be riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

No, it's not. Helmet or not you are more likely to be injured or killed on a bike than personal auto.

One person chooses to use legal PED's for rec use because they like and enjoy them and one person rides a motorcycle because they like and enjoy it. I actually believe the motorcycle is a greater risk of healthy than PED's, but for the sake of arguement let's assume they are the same. Both legal, both higher risk of injury/death than PED free/personal auto.

Again what is the difference?

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TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $8245299	Injectables, while scary to some, are about 1000000000 safer and easier on the body than orals. Especially pro-hormones. Make no mistake, PH's are REAL steroids. They REALLY work. The problem is, they are much harder on the liver than REAL steroids too. Anavar, winny, etc are pretty easy on the liver. Things like anadrol, halo, and dbol are a little bit rougher on it, however the liver is pretty sturdy and can really take a beating and recover pretty fast once you're off. However if you are going to use something and don't care about legalities it's always best to find a source and then get the real thing rather than pro hormones. You should also get blood work done regularly and keep your diet toight like a tiger.
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