Music Nine Inch Nails New Album, "Hesitation Marks" Available on 9/3/13

rico · 06-13-2013, 07:40 PM

Any other NIN fans here? Trent will be releasing a new album, "Hesitation Marks." available on 9/3/13. The single (youtube below) is titled, "Came Back Haunted." I think it's alright. Not totally thrilled, but it's not bad. If anything, it's refreshing to hear new NIN stuff in general. IMO, you can hear the Skinny Puppy influence in this song. Also kind of reminds me of what little I've heard from his "prior to NIN" band, Exotic Birds. Can't pinpoint why, exactly.

**penguinz** · 06-13-2013, 08:46 PM

Sounds like stuff he has already put out before. No progression.

Not sure about the skinny puppy reference.

rico · 06-13-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

Sounds like stuff he has already put out before. No progression.

Not sure about the skinny puppy reference.

In both of my comparisons, I can't really pinpoint why I get the vibes. No clue.

To any NIN fans who may stumble upon this thread, to be honest, I wasn't that pleased with his last two ("Year Zero" and "The Slip"..excluding "Ghosts"), which I didn't previously think was possible with NIN. Loved "With Teeth" more than some seemed to. Loved "The Fragile." Loved "The Downward Spiral." Loved their live album, "And All that Could Have Been," Loved "Pretty Hate Machine"...I don't think I've ever been more "glued" to an album than I was when I first began listening to "Pretty Hate Machine." I appreciate "Broken," but don't love it nearly as much as other NIN fans seem to...I like it, it's okay...it just rarely ever receives/received any air-time in my car. If I were to rank my fave NIN albums, in order according to my preference (excluding remixes and "Ghosts"), it'd go:

1.) Pretty Hate Machine (1989)
2.) And All That Could Have Been (Live Album) (2002)
3.) The Downward Spiral (1994)
4.) With Teeth (2005...couldn't QUITE put this above TDS, but I love it)
5.) The Fragile (1999)
6.) Year Zero (2007 Survivalism and God Given boost this above Broken for me)
7.) Broken (1992 Many NIN fans' fave...very edgy and controversial, especially with "Happiness In Slavery" video. I appreciate it. Just wasn't ever my thing).
8.) The Slip (2008...meh, I wasn't a fan. Seemed like leftovers that weren't able to make the cut on previous albums).

I'd be pleased as hell if it at least surpass "Year Zero" and work it's way to The Fragile/With Teeth/The Downward Spiral in terms of my own personal preferences. One thing that keeps me hopeful is that he has had 5 years to create new material...he usually produces higher quality when he takes his time...even though it's not like he hasn't been up to anything these past few years with his work with soundtracks and his wife's band, How to Destroy Angels.

Any other NIN fans on here? If so, any thoughts?

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-13-2013, 09:33 PM

Trent needs to stick with film scoring because as NIN, he hasn't put out a groundbreaking (or even unique) album since The Fragile. The "band" with his wife went nowhere and his curret band has quit on him (Eric Avery and Adrian Belew have both quit his touring band in recent weeks).

It's over, Dude. Stay home, score films, bang the wife.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-13-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Trent needs to stick with film scoring because as NIN, he hasn't put out a groundbreaking (or even unique) album since The Fragile. The "band" with his wife went nowhere and his curret band has quit on him (Eric Avery and Adrian Belew have both quit his touring band in recent weeks).

It's over, Dude. Stay home, score films, bang the wife.

It's hard to be old and "edgy".

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-13-2013, 09:38 PM

I wonder if the Sisters will ever hit the studio again? They tour here and there, but just don't seem to write or record.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-13-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

It's hard to be old and "edgy".

Well, he's an electronic guy so unless he continues to pump out the same thing he's done for the past 15 years, the next move to be "edgy" is Dubstep.

Film scoring is the greatest gig in the world and he's already a proven successful commodity. And if he can ever forget that he composed "The Fragile", maybe he can push it to the edge to film.

"The Social Network" score won him accolades and awards but it was nothing more than "The Fragile". He needs to move on, if he can.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-13-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, he's an electronic guy so unless he continues to pump out the same thing he's done for the past 15 years, the next move to be "edgy" is Dubstep.

Film scoring is the greatest gig in the world and he's already a proven successful commodity. And if he can ever forget that he composed "The Fragile", maybe he can push it to the edge to film.

"The Social Network" score won him accolades and awards but it was nothing more than "The Fragile". He needs to move on, if he can.

He should hook up with Stewart Copeland.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-13-2013, 09:50 PM

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He should hook up with Stewart Copeland.

To do what, exactly?

Reznor is an Oscar and Golden Globe winning film composer. Stewart Copeland has never won anything and hasn't scored a big budget, high profile film since the disaster that was "Highlander II" in 1991.

Plus, guys like Reznor aren't "collaborators" outside of his circle (Atticus, for example).

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-13-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

To do what, exactly?

Reznor is an Oscar and Golden Globe winning film composer. Stewart Copeland has never won anything and hasn't scored a big budget, high profile film since the disaster that was "Highlander II" in 1991.

Plus, guys like Reznor aren't "collaborators" outside of his circle (Atticus, for example).

I just like his off-beat, organic methods.

**QuikSsurfer** · 06-13-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Trent needs to stick with film scoring because as NIN, he hasn't put out a groundbreaking (or even unique) album since The Fragile. The "band" with his wife went nowhere and his curret band has quit on him (Eric Avery and Adrian Belew have both quit his touring band in recent weeks).

It's over, Dude. Stay home, score films, bang the wife.

Wat... I mean, yeah **** her... but, Trent is a god damn wizard...
And How to Destroy Angels are prettaaah good.

You're getting too old for this kinda music.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-13-2013, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

Wat... I mean, yeah **** her... but, Trent is a god damn wizard...
And How to Destroy Angels are prettaaah good.

Yeah, the music is fine. But it's not connecting with an audience.

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You're getting too old for this kinda music.

Duuuuude

rico · 06-13-2013, 10:25 PM

I have the How to Destroy Angels album. I wanted to like it. I gave a minimal-moderate amount of effort to like it. I just haven't been able to get past 2-3 listens with it. Never feel the urge to. Maybe it will grow on me, but I just...I dunno. Just not impressed so far, but it still has a chance to grow on me.

Year Zero had a couple of bright spots, IMO, but overall, I wasn't pleased. I couldn't get into the "concept" of the album. It just struck me as kind of pretentious.

The Slip, blech. A bunch of leftovers, I swear.

"Ghosts" was relatively decent and was an interesting change in direction for NIN. I don't mind putting it on as "background" music for when I am around the house engaging in various household tasks. I've put it in and fallen asleep to it. That is nice. It's just nothing I'll put in to jam out to.

If I force myself to be honest with myself, I agree with the over-whelming majority of what Dane wrote. I'd say where my opinion of NIN differs from Dane (and most critics/some NIN fans) the most is that he hasn't produced anything unique since "The Fragile." I loved "With Teeth." Loved the tour as well. I'll admit that it wasn't groundbreaking...The album was relatively successful, but didn't make that big of a splash. I did think the album had it's unique moments though. My favorite songs on the album were ones that didn't become hits. Were and still are and always be pretty obscure. I absolutely loved, "All the Love in the World," "Beside You in Time," "Right Where it Belongs," "The Line Begins to Blur," "Sunspots" and "You Know What You Are?" I liked them better than the hits from that album; "Only," "The Hand that Feeds" and "Every Day is Exactly the Same." I dunno, I know a lot of people who are probably more credible of a source than me were not satisfied with it. And heck, I may be blissfully unaware as to how not unique it actually is. FWIW, it was/is unique to me, though.

I am HOPING, HOPING, HOPING for this album to take me back to how NIN used to make me feel when I initially purchased the album. Haven't been real "euphoric" about purchasing a new album since "With Teeth." I do realize the "HOPING, HOPING, HOPING" side of me is influenced by my inner NIN-homer, true-fan side.

rico · 06-13-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

To do what, exactly?

Reznor is an Oscar and Golden Globe winning film composer. Stewart Copeland has never won anything and hasn't scored a big budget, high profile film since the disaster that was "Highlander II" in 1991.

Plus, guys like Reznor aren't "collaborators" outside of his circle (Atticus, for example).

Yup. And I believe a large part of this can be due to the fact that he has some severe social anxiety issues that he can't kick. I watched this interview with a couple of members from the band, Ministry, and they talked about how they visited him at his house or something. Anyways, they were clowning on Trent in the interview, basically making fun of how socially anxious and awkward he was.

Not a real social guy. I couldn't believe it when he went through that twitter phase. Was even more thrown off by how willing he was to let himself come off like a total douche-canoe on it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-13-2013, 10:44 PM

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Yup. And I believe a large part of this can be due to the fact that he has some severe social anxiety issues that he can't kick. I watched this interview with a couple of members from the band, Ministry, and they talked about how they visited him at his house or something. Anyways, they were clowning on Trent in the interview, basically making fun of how socially anxious and awkward he was.

Not a real social guy. I couldn't believe it when he went through that twitter phase. Was even more thrown off by how willing he was to let himself come off like a total douche-canoe on it.

Trent doesn't have a social anxiety disorder. He's a talented guy that had too much fame too quickly, used it up (and believe me, he used it up), tried to come back to earth, couldn't, then cut off everyone

When he married his current wife, it was a shock to everyone around him, even his closest and oldest friends. He wanted to jump start her career, got bored, then started scoring film and now he's back to NIN.

He's a very talented guy but can't figure out where to put his energy. But the bottom line is that his music has grown stale and his audience is bored.

And judging by the recent defections of his current touring band, so is everyone around him.

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