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Old 08-17-2013, 08:33 AM  
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The ground can't cause a fumble
This used to be a clear cut rule. No subjective bullshit involved. Now it seems like yet another way for the refs to influence the outcome of a game. Discuss.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:43 PM   #46
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Just admit you are wrong and move on.
Why would I admit I'm wrong when the rulebook agrees with me? Or are we going to act like the officials are right 100% of the time and know the rulebook from front to back?
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #47
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Not really.

The rule states that if a player falls to the ground and makes no effort to advance the ball the play is dead.

McCluster fell to the ground and made no effort to advance the ball. Play dead.

It's either an incomplete pass or a catch and down by virtue of that rule.
No. it's either an incomplete pass or a fumbled lateral. He did not maintain control through the entire act of catching the ball. if it was thrown backwards, that makes it a live ball. But,giving himself up is not what happened.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #48
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Why would I admit I'm wrong when the rulebook agrees with me? Or are we going to act like the officials are right 100% of the time and know the rulebook from front to back?
Falling to the ground like Dex does in that video is not 'giving up'.

Kneeling or Sliding feet first is.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:48 PM   #49
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No. it's either an incomplete pass or a fumbled lateral. He did not maintain control through the entire act of catching the ball. if it was thrown backwards, that makes it a live ball. But,giving himself up is not what happened.
A fumbled lateral?

WTF?

Go back to lurking.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:49 PM   #50
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Falling to the ground like Dex does in that video is not 'giving up'.

Kneeling or Sliding feet first is.
Now we are making up definitions?
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:51 PM   #51
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Now we are making up definitions?
Now you're just being intentionally obtuse.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:52 PM   #52
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Now you're just being intentionally obtuse.
Kneeling or sliding... the new "falling"
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Kneeling or sliding... the new "falling"
Do you know what a QB does to avoid being hit while running in open field?
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:54 PM   #54
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Do you know what a QB does to avoid being hit while running in open field?
Let me guess... He falls?
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Let me guess... He falls?
Sliding feet first for a QB is them giving up.

They are immediately called down when they begin the slide.
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A fumbled lateral?

WTF?

Go back to lurking.
You do realize that a backwards pass is a lateral, right?
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You do realize that a backwards pass is a lateral, right?
I know exactly what a lateral is.

I'm sure we'd all like to hear about how McCluster lateraled the ball.
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