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Old 09-17-2012, 10:34 AM  
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Scott Egoli and the Kansas City Chiefs

I'm not gloating. This is sad. Kansas City deserves leadership that lives in Kansas City. Absentee owner allows GM's ego to undermine the franchise.


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Old 09-18-2012, 12:40 PM   #151
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Why is this only an issue now and never when Lamar owned the team? Art Rooney is the ambassador of Ireland. Would you rather have an owner who is local and too hands on like Jerry Jones? I think a GM needs a certain amount of autonomy. I do though believe Clark gives him total autonomy.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:41 PM   #152
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Wrong... again... You sir are nothing, if not consistent.
Look at the last line. I said we might get a paragraph and I was right.

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He'll wait until it's a lock imo. He can't really write an "I told you so" article about Pioli two weeks into the season. The NFL is funny and things could turn around quick. He probably needs more material. Also, nobody cares about the Chiefs so it will have to be a really good article about Pioli.... It's not time yet. maybe we will get a paragraph but not an article. Just my ten cents.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:43 PM   #153
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Why is this only an issue now and never when Lamar owned the team? Art Rooney is the ambassador of Ireland.
Dan Rooney is the ambassador to Ireland, NOT Art Rooney II.

And this WAS an issue when Lamar owned the team. Are you too young to remember Arrowhead in the 70's and 80's?
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:31 PM   #154
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Look at the last line. I said we might get a paragraph and I was right.



Of all people why are you trying to throw something in my face? I was nice to you from the minute you got here. I'm the only guy who played your stupid buy/sell thread.


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Old 09-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #155
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Dan Rooney is the ambassador to Ireland, NOT Art Rooney II.

And this WAS an issue when Lamar owned the team. Are you too young to remember Arrowhead in the 70's and 80's?
are we in the worst of times Charles was talking about now?
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:05 PM   #156
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Look at the last line. I said we might get a paragraph and I was right.
You were half right. Way to go. The reason that I thought I might point that out to you, is that since you've been here, you've been very vocal about a great many things. Unfortunately, like most people who are loud and opinionated, you are not very good at using the information provided to you to develop your opinions. I'm pointing out your faults as a way to encourage you to think before you type. But alas Blackie my boy, the dye is cast and you sir are fast becoming the dumbest poster on this board bar none. And whether you're truly lacking as much brain power as it seems is beside the point. This is CP baby, and perception is everything. Based on your posts, you are generally perceived to be a dipshit. Therefore you are a... let's see if you can draw an accurate conclusion here...
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:38 PM   #157
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Whitlock is right, but that "Egoli" nickname is still wack as ****.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:40 PM   #158
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Whitlock is right, but that "Egoli" nickname is still wack as ****.
Agreed. Whittles struggle with nicknames. They all seem highly contrived. Actually, it seems like the best ones he's "invented" came from here.

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Old 09-18-2012, 04:50 PM   #159
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You were half right. Way to go. The reason that I thought I might point that out to you, is that since you've been here, you've been very vocal about a great many things. Unfortunately, like most people who are loud and opinionated, you are not very good at using the information provided to you to develop your opinions. I'm pointing out your faults as a way to encourage you to think before you type. But alas Blackie my boy, the dye is cast and you sir are fast becoming the dumbest poster on this board bar none. And whether you're truly lacking as much brain power as it seems is beside the point. This is CP baby, and perception is everything. Based on your posts, you are generally perceived to be a dipshit. Therefore you are a... let's see if you can draw an accurate conclusion here...
You are right. I was only half right. You aren't the noob I thought you were and you didn't start that thread. I apologize for that but you seem to have his avatar.

Whitlock wrote an article that included a paragraph about the Chiefs. I was right about that I don't understand why you came after me.

In what way did I wrong you? Why do you feel the need to pile on? I believe this is the first time we have spoken. Am I correct?

Did it anger you that the point of that paragraph is that KC is irrelevent and America doesn't care?

It bothers me that the Chiefs are irrelevent.

I get the angle of your post but I guess I am done ****ing around with people. It's not productive for the most part and I have been asked to lighten up on people.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:57 PM   #160
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I'll take mine for being wrong, JWhit. Pioli has been bad, and Clark doesn't inspire the kind of leadership that guys want to go through like the Patriots do for Robert Kraft or like the Giants do for the Mara family, etc.

But here's my question:

If not Pioli, then who?
If not Clark Hunt, then who? Just curious what names you think are good ones.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:02 PM   #161
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Why is this only an issue now and never when Lamar owned the team? Art Rooney is the ambassador of Ireland. Would you rather have an owner who is local and too hands on like Jerry Jones? I think a GM needs a certain amount of autonomy. I do though believe Clark gives him total autonomy.
Because most of the time when Lamar owned the team there wasn't internet msg boards, social media, or just the amount of national exposure as there is today. You had the new on the TV, the newspaper, and AM talk radio.

Not to mention that when it comes to KC professional sports. At least one franchise was always good with exception to maybe a gap of a few years in the 70's. The Chiefs were good in the late 60's and into the early 70's. When the Royals came they were good from the late 70's and into the late 80's. The Chiefs then took the reigns as the town's top dog from the late 80's and they've been THE franchise since due to the Royals being so ****ing bad. Some of that also has to do with the booming of the NFL in general and the baseball strike of 1994.

Now both franchises are complete dogshit, and it ****ing sucks. People are tired and fed up. They've spend a lot of time, money and emotional investment into the Chiefs only to be teased into thinking that things will be different. It's the same shit over and over again. And to make matters worse the economy is ****ing terrible and probably won't recover anytime in our lifetime unless massive changes and overhauls are made in our govt. The Chiefs raise ticket prices and parking prices etc, and less people are able to afford to go to a game. Just look at the Gold section in Arrowhead. Arrowhead could be "sold out" and that section will look like a ghost town.

Factor in HDTV and Sunday Ticket, and it's just not worth it anymore to attend Chiefs game.

Sad to say this, but the magic has left Arrowhead. We got a little taste of it on MNF in the season opener against the Chargersin 2010, but that's about it. Even the fans at Arrowhead can't overcome the dogshit that Matt Cassel brings to the table, as we all saw in the Baltimore playoff game later that 2010 season.

At some point enough is enough....and I think people are starting to see that. I know I just about have.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:04 PM   #162
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Can you guys imagine if RG3 was leading this team? Arrowhead would have filled up...Jerseys sold through the roof, and all for just $21 million in guaranteed money.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:07 PM   #163
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Lamar had an extremely likeable public image. Plus, he was responsible for, not only bringing the Chiefs to KC, but creating the AFL and helping to force the merger. For those reasons, he was revered by the community ... and rightfully so.

But Lamar is no longer with us. Clark now has the reins and lacks the gravitas and charisma of his father. Apparently, however, he does possess the same laissez-faire, hands-off approach to the team. Taken together, those characteristics don't provide him with the same benefit of the doubt Lamar enjoyed.

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Old 09-18-2012, 05:07 PM   #164
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Can you guys imagine if RG3 was leading this team? Arrowhead would have filled up...Jerseys sold through the roof, and all for just $21 million in guaranteed money.
And every draft pick for 10 years.

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And every draft pick for 10 years.

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No doubt it would have had to have been a haul of picks. But based on Pioli's record of drafting, I would have gladly given that up.
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