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Old 11-03-2016, 09:11 PM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 01-06-2017, 04:01 PM   #1111
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I'm not seeing it reported anywhere other than that Tweet.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:02 PM   #1112
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That's a pretty good deal for KC, IMO.

Karns has some very promising peripherals. There are health issues there and frankly he may have Dave Bush/Ricky Nolasco disease where his overall performance just never catches up to his leading indicators.

But Karns has plus #3 potential, IMO. You're running into some age problems with him at this point (if he hasn't found it by 29, is he going to?), but I like his stuff. Like most young pitchers, it will be refinement in his command that tells the tale here.
Eiland has a little Dave Duncan magic in him and the Royals track record to turning out stud relievers out of failed starters is a good sign as well.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:03 PM   #1113
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I'm not seeing it reported anywhere other than that Tweet.
Royals just tweeted it out.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:03 PM   #1114
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I'm not seeing it reported anywhere other than that Tweet.
That's as close of a source to the Mariners as there is. One that also probably won't be making many headlines.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:09 PM   #1116
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:09 PM   #1117
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Billy Burns' acquisition made me believe that Dyson's departure was all but inevitable.



Though I wish we could have found more of a "sure thing", one can't be too choosy when their bargaining chip is 1 year of a 4th outfielder (albeit one of the best in baseball).


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I won't ever complain about getting some SP depth. He is 29, though, so I can't see his command just improving out of the blue.
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Certainly seems capable of striking guys out. From just a brief search it seems he throws mid 90s with a really hard curve. He's started but could certainly be an attempt to convert someone to a reliever like they did with Wade.
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Old 01-06-2017, 04:14 PM   #1121
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Certainly seems capable of striking guys out. From just a brief search it seems he throws mid 90s with a really hard curve. He's started but could certainly be an attempt to convert someone to a reliever like they did with Wade.
True. Give him an early shot for the back-end of the rotation out of spring training. See what he can do, and if he catches lightning in a bottle then KC can ride that out. If he struggles (ie Wade/Hoch) try him out for 'Borg status.
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One more thing to note on Karns, although he is 29, he has 2 years of service time total. He won't be eligible for free agency until after the 2020 season. Traded one year of Jarrod for, *potentially*, 4 years of a serviceable starter. Do your thing, GMDM/Eiland.
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Certainly seems capable of striking guys out. From just a brief search it seems he throws mid 90s with a really hard curve. He's started but could certainly be an attempt to convert someone to a reliever like they did with Wade.
Davis was a good reliever before the Royals tried to get him back to starting (and then made him a reliever again).

Karns command will be as big an issue for him in relief as it would be as a starter. I don't think this is one of those 'eh, if he can't start, he's still a nails reliever' scenarios that comes with guys who struggle to develop a 3rd pitch.

Karns has a fundamental weakness that would be a problem for him regardless of role. This one has a little more risk to it. But you also have 4 years of team control here and that's quite a bit of value for one year of Dyson.
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One more thing to note on Karns, although he is 29, he has 2 years of service time total. He won't be eligible for free agency until after the 2020 season.
Yep 1 year of Dyson for 3 years of Karns.
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Karns is an upgrade at 5 over Chris Young. Save him for relief work now.
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