Your expectations for Alex Smith?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Alex Smith was so damned good, why did he crawl back to the 49ers after taking them to the NFCCG because no other team would offer him a starting QB's contract and after the 49ers flirted with Manning so publicly?

This isn't just about the 49ers, it's about the market. The market spoke to Alex Smith, and they told him to **** off.

Even if Kaepernick is Christ reincarnate, I'm pretty damned sure there aren't 32 of him.

Harbaugh made a bold move by moving up for Kaepernick. It's obvious he liked him, and didn't like Smith, but he obviously didn't like him enough last offseason to fully commit to him, because they went hard after Manning and when they didn't sign him they offered Smith a contract. He also got really ****ing lucky by Kaepernick ending up being far better far sooner than what he expected.

Mother****. Are any of you capable of reading words for what they ****ing say?

Who the hell said anything about Alex Smith being "so damn good"? He's adequate. The end. Did I say he was a ****ing star? No, no I did not. I said that if you take his 2 years under a dipshit of a coach and improve them by 10% due to being trained by a very smart QB guy, he can be an 88 rated passer which is passable

What is inaccurate about that? Why is it beyond the realm of possibility that a 25 yr old kid with an idiot head coach has actually improved? And that with even marginal improvement, he's now an adequate NFL quarterback?

Not "so damn good". Not "more talented than one of the 5 most physically gifted QBs in the league", but ****ing competent - nothing more, nothing less.

Jesus - ****ing read and when you're done reading, address the statements actually raised and not the argument you keep wanting to have - that evidently some of us believe that Alex Smith is a 14 game winning, SB caliber QB that will raise the level of his teammates and ****ing cure cancer.

Y'know what - never****ingmind. I know why Dane lost his shit - none of you people bother paying attention to anything. You know what you know and by God, that's all there is to it. If someone dares suggest that someone is merely average, you lunatics lose your goddamn minds.

Go back to calling a former first overall pick that took his team to within a fumbled punt of the Super Bowl Matt Goddamn Cassel. None of you are paying attention to anything anyone else has to say anyway.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mother****. Are any of you capable of reading words for what they ****ing say?

Who the hell said anything about Alex Smith being "so damn good"? He's adequate. The end. Did I say he was a ****ing star? No, no I did not. I said that if you take his 2 years under a dipshit of a coach and improve them by 10% due to being trained by a very smart QB guy, he can be an 88 rated passer which is passable

What is inaccurate about that? Why is it beyond the realm of possibility that a 25 yr old kid with an idiot head coach has actually improved? And that with even marginal improvement, he's now an adequate NFL quarterback?

Not "so damn good". Not "more talented than one of the 5 most physically gifted QBs in the league", but ****ing competent - nothing more, nothing less.

Jesus - ****ing read and when you're done reading, address the statements actually raised and not the argument you keep wanting to have - that evidently some of us believe that Alex Smith is a 14 game winning, SB caliber QB that will raise the level of his teammates and ****ing cure cancer.

Y'know what - never****ingmind. I know why Dane lost his shit - none of you people bother paying attention to anything. You know what you know and by God, that's all there is to it. If someone dares suggest that someone is merely average, you lunatics lose your goddamn minds.

Go back to calling a former first overall pick that took his team to within a fumbled punt of the Super Bowl Matt Goddamn Cassel. None of you are paying attention to anything anyone else has to say anyway.

This is a classic case of projection. I said Smith wasn't good enough. "Adequate" isn't good enough. Someone who isn't good enough to trust multiple offseasons in a row isn't good enough. I don't know why that's so damned hard to understand.

For a breathy rant about reading comprehension, you sure seem to lack your own.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is a classic case of projection. I said Smith wasn't good enough. "Adequate" isn't good enough. Someone who isn't good enough to trust multiple offseasons in a row isn't good enough. I don't know why that's so damned hard to understand.

For a breathy rant about reading comprehension, you sure seem to lack your own.

I quoted you, sweetheart.

You're the one that put out the straw man and started making dipshit arguments claiming that being benched for Colin Kaepernick means anything more than "you were benched for one of the 5 most talented QBs in the league".

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I quoted you, sweetheart.

You're the one that put out the straw man and started making dipshit arguments claiming that being benched for Colin Kaepernick means anything more than "you were benched for one of the 5 most talented QBs in the league".

He was benched for a guy who Harbaugh did not trust enough to give the job to after the last offseason. He was benched for a guy that Harbaugh wanted to sit for another few years (see Manning, Peyton).


Smith was passed over by Seattle, who played him 2x year. He was passed over by Miami. He was passed over by Cleveland, and the Jets.

Thirty two teams had a shot at an adequate starting QB and not one thought he was good enough. It isn't just a matter of Smith v. Kaepernick, it's the 49ers saying for multiple offseasons, "We don't trust this guy" and the entire NFL echoing that sentiment last year.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was benched for a guy who Harbaugh did not trust enough to give the job to after the last offseason. He was benched for a guy that Harbaugh wanted to sit for another few years (see Manning, Peyton).


Smith was passed over by Seattle, who played him 2x year. He was passed over by Miami. He was passed over by Cleveland, and the Jets.

Thirty two teams had a shot at an adequate starting QB and not one thought he was good enough. It isn't just a matter of Smith v. Kaepernick, it's the 49ers saying for multiple offseasons, "We don't trust this guy" and the entire NFL echoing that sentiment last year.

2011 his red zone woes were very worrisome

that's his big knock from me right now...average arm, needs to get better in the red zone

as for Peyton ****ing Manning

it's Peyton ****ing Manning and the 49ers had an elite defense with elite playmakers and an elite line

pretty sure you can't hold that against Harbaugh or the 49ers for inquiring...

I mean, he's still a top 3 QB in the NFL...and I'm pretty sure Harbaugh wasn't in any rush to start Kaepernick until he saw him in a real game situation on MNF against a damn good Bears defense.

EITHER WAY WE GET IT, EVERYONE KNOWS IT...Smith is not a long term solution at QB and I highly doubt Reid/Dorsey are planning on making him one.

and if they do, THEN WE CAN ALL START CUTTING

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

EITHER WAY WE GET IT, EVERYONE KNOWS IT...Smith is not a long term solution at QB and I highly doubt Reid/Dorsey are planning on making him one.

and if they do, THEN WE CAN ALL START CUTTING

Geno Smith is a long term answer so there is no point in wasting time on Alex Smith when the future is there for the taking.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was benched for a guy who Harbaugh did not trust enough to give the job to after the last offseason. He was benched for a guy that Harbaugh wanted to sit for another few years (see Manning, Peyton).


Smith was passed over by Seattle, who played him 2x year. He was passed over by Miami. He was passed over by Cleveland, and the Jets.

Thirty two teams had a shot at an adequate starting QB and not one thought he was good enough. It isn't just a matter of Smith v. Kaepernick, it's the 49ers saying for multiple offseasons, "We don't trust this guy" and the entire NFL echoing that sentiment last year.

He was benched with a 6-2 record while leading the NFL in passer efficiency.

Let's not act like he got thrown out of the lineup. He got hurt and when he did, Kaepernick seized the reigns like you would hope for from a great QB and never looked back.

And as for the 'entire NFL' not trusting him, well many of those front offices were lead by guys that though Matt Cassel or Ryan Fitzpatrick where the keys to winning championships, so I'm not real swayed by bad teams not recognizing a better QB situation. Nor am I surprised that 1/2 the NFL realized they had a better QB situation.