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Old 08-24-2016, 11:58 AM  
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Bosa rejects Chargers "best" offer

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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:00 PM   #196
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Too risky to be drafted at 3.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:12 PM   #197
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Hey, NFL FO's don't like stoners with high picks (pardon the pun). Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, etc...
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:21 PM   #198
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If they don't get a stadium deal done, the NFL and the city will probably spend $800 million to renovate the Murph.

LA doesn't want the Chargers or Raiders.
I see a lot of talk on the web about them playing in LA, but yeah that sounds like a huge cluster**** that would never work

Where else would they even go, St Louis maybe?
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:25 PM   #199
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Please name some of the other 'legitimate studs' that would have been worthy of the 3rd overall pick. There are arguments against all of them.
It was a weak draft class plain and simple.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:27 PM   #200
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Hey, NFL FO's don't like stoners with high picks (pardon the pun). Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, etc...
Yet, Hall of Famers.

Hell, it's *legal*'out here. Who cares?
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:27 PM   #201
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Or Ronnie Stanley. Or DeForest Buckner.

Literally anybody else they were rumored to be interested in, but instead they took Bosa to play him at 3-4 DE.
Was there any kind of indication that Bosa and his agent were going to conduct themselves this way? Was Bosa a diva in college? Or is this his agent or both??
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:30 PM   #202
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I see a lot of talk on the web about them playing in LA, but yeah that sounds like a huge cluster**** that would never work

Where else would they even go, St Louis maybe?
If the referendum doesn't pass (and I doubt that it does), I think the NFL will up their ante to $500 million from $300, while giving the Spanos family a zero interest loan for the remainder of the Murph renovations.

The owners will lose more money with a move than they will with a renovation and the NFL *really* wants to be in San Diego.

Blackouts in Los Angeles will cost 4x as much as in Los Angeles than San Diego.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:31 PM   #203
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I see a lot of talk on the web about them playing in LA, but yeah that sounds like a huge cluster**** that would never work

Where else would they even go, St Louis maybe?

If they went to LA (where nobody wants them, incidentally) they'd not only be fighting for fans in a notoriously ambivalent-towards-football town who among the few fans mostly root for they Raiders and Rams, they'd also be Stan Kroenke's bitch. I mean seriously. He'd be their landlord. I'm sure he'd be totally impartial and not use every opportunity he could find to sabotage their football team.

They have to stay in San Diego unless they get really bold and go to San Antonio or (haha) Oakland after the Raiders go to Vegas.


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Official Statement from Joey Bosa's representatives:
It is unfortunate the San Diego Chargers have decided to manipulate facts and negotiate in the media. The team surely is not strengthening its relationship with Joey Bosa by taking this stance and making their position public.

We have decided that we will not engage in public negotiations or discuss numbers and/or terms in this negotiation.

We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.

At this point, all we can do is continue to fight for a fair contract on behalf of our client, as we do for all of our clients. The Chargers can focus on trying to sway public opinion, but our focus will remain on our client and securing a contract for him that is fair and consistent with his draft position.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:41 PM   #204
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Someone is forgetting the history that San Diego has with signing their first round picks.
San Diego is the real problem here not Bosa.
Anything prior to the new CBA does not count. Completely different circumstances.
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The funny thing is that the Spanos family has supported anti-tax, no hand-out politics. You know, Koch Brothers stuff.

And here they are. Begging voters for a hand-out.


That being said, I hope they get it for personal (Gaslamp pregame) reasons. Even if this measure doesn't pass it's really just to test the waters of the voting public.

This Bosa situation really doesn't help their cause. They should just give Bosa deferment or let him lose the language. Just give him one, and we're done. Your 3rd overall pick is in camp, fans are happy, fans who vote.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:53 PM   #206
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This is why I don't care.
The 5 or 6 other options for the 3rd pick wouldn't have been much better either.
Chris Jones would've been better lol
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:27 PM   #207
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where does this rank in draft blunders/holdouts all time so far?

1. Bo Jackson

2. Elway?

3. Eli

4. Bosa (and climbing)
And none of them amounted to anything, so bad news for Bosa.
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:38 PM   #208
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:51 PM   #209
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Link?

Because we already debunked your "3rd overalls get this" argument. I'd love to see some validity to this claim.

From what i understand, Elliot agreed to the same terms that the Chargers are offering Bosa.

And again, the Jags picking in the top 5 for the past 3 years skews that data. As well as the Rams this year...so when you say "Most" what does that even mean?
Not sure if you know what "debunked" means, nothing I said was wrong.
I think the slotting system started in 2012, which would include the Browns along with the Dolphins and Jags that agreed to what Bosa is asking

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2016...rding-to-hoyle

Fact: Since the slotting system went into effect in 2012 (five drafts), every third overall pick has signed a contract in which either the offset was removed or their signing bonus was paid in full by the end of their rookie season, as Bosa is requesting.

Fact: 16 of the 20 top five picks from 2012-2015 either received their bonus by the end of their rookie season or had the offset language removed from their deal.

Fact: Three of the top five picks, and five of the top seven picks to have signed this year, either have no offset language or will receive their bonus before the end of the 2016 season.
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