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Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

Chiefnj2 · 03-11-2010, 12:57 PM

Black Rock set sail in 1845

Dynamite got its patent in 1867

Red Brooklyn · 03-11-2010, 01:44 PM

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Was that the first time is was ever sailed, or just the voyage in which is disappeared?

There is absolutely no doubt that it was a slave ship, as evidenced by the chains, Sawyer's use of the word "Slaver" in 1977 and the fact that Richard was referred to by the MIB as "slave".

I need to rewatch "The Constant".

As I understand it, it's maiden voyage was in 1845. It didn't actually disappeare until 1881. But that date (as far as I know) hasn't been confirmed in-show. That comes from one of the Hiatus ARGs.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_black_rock

Clearly, there were "slaves" on board The Black Rock. No doubt. But slave trade had been outlawed in 1807, and slaverly itself abolished by the British Empire in 1833. So TBR wasn't officially a "slave" ship. It was trade ship that opporated in human trafficing. It was all very black market and underground. Which may have some relevance as to Richard's background. We may not be dealing with exclusively African slave trade. That's all. But there were definately slaves onboard. Absolutely. Sort of splitting hairs. Sorry.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-11-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

As I understand it, it's maiden voyage was in 1845. It didn't actually disappeare until 1881. But that date (as far as I know) hasn't been confirmed in-show. That comes from one of the Hiatus ARGs.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_black_rock

Clearly, there were "slaves" on board The Black Rock. No doubt. But slave trade had been outlawed in 1807, and slaverly itself abolished by the British Empire in 1833. So TBR wasn't officially a "slave" ship. It was trade ship that opporated in human trafficing. It was all very black market and underground. Which may have some relevance as to Richard's background. We may not be dealing with exclusively African slave trade. That's all. But there were definately slaves onboard. Absolutely. Sort of splitting hairs. Sorry.

It's all good.

That probably throws out the idea that Richard is black.

Maybe he was a slave of Tovard Hanso?

Brock · 03-11-2010, 02:17 PM

The guyliner and his name would appear to give some insight into where R.A. comes from. JMO

Red Brooklyn · 03-11-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Maybe he was a slave of Tovard Hanso?

That could be really cool. I'd love to get more of the Hanso mythology worked into the cannon of the show proper. Even if it's just peripheral.

Huffmeister · 03-11-2010, 04:39 PM

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IMaybe he was a slave of Tovard Hanso?

Or maybe he IS Hanso. MIB mentioned Richard in chains, but they could have been figurative chains, or a reference to something that happened to him after he got to the island.

Do we know if Hanso was on the ship when it disappeared? Or did he just own it?

KingPriest2 · 03-11-2010, 08:03 PM

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That would be a strange little twist. Not sure I see them going that route, but... one never knows with this show...

And, yes. If being touched by Jacob is what calls you to the island to be a candidate - and it sure seems like that may really be the case - then Jacob must have touched Ben at some point in his youth. And yes, it's entirely possible that Ben was too young to remember. Good call, Dane. What you're saying makes a lot of sense.

Ben had cancer on the island He was questioned about that How would he be a canidate?

**Dartgod** · 03-11-2010, 08:42 PM

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Ben has said he has never seen Jacob He told Locke this in prior seasons

Right. Because Ben always tells the truth.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-11-2010, 08:51 PM

I don't think Ben had ever seen Jacob, either. But that doesn't mean that he wasn't "touched" by him.

Has it been confirmed that his name was on the Wheel of Candidates? I haven't had a chance to go back and look today.

Molitoth · 03-11-2010, 09:01 PM

Im a huge LOST fan, and it's just now starting to bug me. I am actually ready for this show to end.

Usually great shows I want to go on forever, but this is just DRAGGGGGING.

KingPriest2 · 03-11-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think Ben had ever seen Jacob, either. But that doesn't mean that he wasn't "touched" by him.

Has it been confirmed that his name was on the Wheel of Candidates? I haven't had a chance to go back and look today.

I havent yet

Their are two sets of "names and numbers" The lighthouse and the cave One is for Jacob the other the cave is for MIB MIB told Sawyer yhat is was Jacobs but I think its MIBs You agree?

The reason why I dont think Ben is a canidate nor touched is he overthrew Widmore He wasnt chosen He got cancer which surprised people

I think that Jacks last name I think Widmore knows alot more then Ben about the island I also believe Widmore is working for MIB and Hawking is for Jacob.

Remember when Bram told Miles that Widmore was on the wrong team Also I think that Locke was used as a pawn by Widmore to find the island

The smoke monster was Christians form I believe I also believe that when Locke went into the cabin and met Christian as well as seeing Claire It was MIBs plan to move the island so Widmore could find it

I think that Jacks last name is very important as well Shepard I think that Locke is either related to Widmore or Jack

These are just theories There is so much more to this as well

KingPriest2 · 03-11-2010, 09:58 PM

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There are three episodes yet to film (it was four the week of the Paly festival).

The actors will receive scripts with their lines only. No one actor will no every line, the full script, etc. They won't find out until they're actually shooting what's really happening.

They have started filming 6-16

arrowheadnation · 03-11-2010, 10:18 PM

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**noa** · 03-11-2010, 11:54 PM

I liked the last episode a lot. I definitely liked the point that the island is what turned Ben bad.

Of all the things to nitpick with this show, I know this is really minor (considering people are traveling in time and all), but a student just showing up at a teacher's house unannounced to ask why the teacher wasn't at an after-school event is pretty absurd, even for an overachiever like Alex.

I was happy to see that the douchey professor from Real Genius is still able to nail these douche roles in school settings -- this time as the principal.

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03-11-2010, 11:54 PM	#4680
noa Band Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $1605453	I liked the last episode a lot. I definitely liked the point that the island is what turned Ben bad. Of all the things to nitpick with this show, I know this is really minor (considering people are traveling in time and all), but a student just showing up at a teacher's house unannounced to ask why the teacher wasn't at an after-school event is pretty absurd, even for an overachiever like Alex. I was happy to see that the douchey professor from Real Genius is still able to nail these douche roles in school settings -- this time as the principal. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes, well, he eats you.
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