Poop Let's talk about "true fans" - Page 19

**DaFace** · 09:37 AM

Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.

The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days:

1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this.

2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel.

3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out.

4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do.

5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up.

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success.

Discus.

Discuss Thrower · 08-03-2013, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I've felt for a long time that the Chiefs ownership has very real contempt for its fanbase. It's not an active kind of hatred, but the type of disdain that you often see within tone deaf corporations.

Look at the way that Microsoft treated their customers with the release of the new XBox. The mere thought that the consumers would be stupid and gullible enough to put up with some of the features and policies with that console compared to a PS4 is incredibly offensive.

I feel the Chiefs ownership operates in a similar fashion. The difference is that Chiefs fans don't have an alternative, so they embrace foolish plans due to the alternative's absence.

That contempt is why you don't see me posting in many Chiefs threads. Personally, I can't continue to give them my "business".

You lost me at tone deaf corporations. Had you said "corporations who patronize their consumer base which is of a lower social class and markedly lower in intelligence" I'd say you might have a point.

**BossChief** · 08-03-2013, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If guys like Sweet Dick Willie and Clay hate this franchise so much and talk shit on them, then why don't they just leave?

Just take a season off instead of regurgitating the same old shit.

I swear to God women aren't as bad as you two. They at least let an issue die after a few days or weeks. They don't bring this shit up almost every ****ing day for months on end.

Shut up, n00b.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-03-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You lost me at tone deaf corporations. Had you said "corporations who patronize their consumer base which is of a lower social class and markedly lower in intelligence" I'd say you might have a point.

Explain.

**J Diddy** · 08-03-2013, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Shut up, n00b.

He's got a point, noob.

Discuss Thrower · 08-03-2013, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Explain.

Hunt family is established money hailing from more inviting environs than the bald knobber hillbilly types that originate in the area where Lamar chose to relocate his team...

..?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-03-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Hunt family is established money hailing from more inviting environs than the bald knobber hillbilly types that originate in the area where Lamar chose to relocate his team...

..?

Most people buying XBones aren't electrical, computer, and software engineers.

That said, I do agree with you that the majority of the Chiefs fanbase brings it upon themselves.

Discuss Thrower · 08-03-2013, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Most people buying XBones aren't electrical, computer, and software engineers.

That said, I do agree with you that the majority of the Chiefs fanbase brings it upon themselves.

Even then, didn't ms change some details about the Xbone that the online community was enraged about?

9er guy · 08-03-2013, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

He lost and honored a bet. Unlike POS donco fans on this board.

Damn. That's rough. I had to wear a cowboys jersey to honor a bet one time.

I still don't feel 100% clean.

Setsuna · 08-03-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Even then, didn't ms change some details about the Xbone that the online community was enraged about?

Yeah except we can't trade Alex back and get the 2nd round draft pick back. Hunt is worse.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-03-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Even then, didn't ms change some details about the Xbone that the online community was enraged about?

Yup.

I will say this to others: there's freedom in shedding your hope. At some point it just becomes an exercise in insanity to think the Chiefs will ever do anything different, and as long as the Hunt family owns the team, they won't.

Sorter · 08-03-2013, 01:15 AM

The thing I think irritates most is that this was one of the few chances KC will ever have to go into a season with the best available QB (Alex, for most) and as well as having the ability to draft the best QB prospect in the draft. The chiefs had the chance to do both and instead, did not.

Sassy Squatch · 08-03-2013, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

The thing I think irritates most is that this was one of the few chances KC will ever have to go into a season with the best available QB (Alex, for most) and as well as having the ability to draft the best QB prospect in the draft. The chiefs had the chance to do both and instead, did not.

Its OK. Your threads will always be better than Inmems threads.

Sorter · 08-03-2013, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Its OK. Your threads will always be better than Inmems threads.

Especially the ocelot thread

Oooooo, that needs a good bump.

Sassy Squatch · 08-03-2013, 01:27 AM

Do it NAO

Sorter · 08-03-2013, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Do it NAO

It's probably time to start embedding vids in that thread.

Oh, people, there will be ocelots tonight! /Inigo

View Poll Results: How would you classify yourself?
1 - Homer	7	2.44%
2 - Optimist	85	29.62%
3 - Balanced	116	40.42%
4 - Pessimist	67	23.34%
5 - Naysayer	8	2.79%
Generic Alternate Zresponse	4	1.39%
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05-03-2013, 09:30 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2036899	Let's talk about "true fans" Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made. The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days: 1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this. 2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel. 3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out. 4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do. 5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success. Discus. Last edited by DaFace; 05-03-2013 at 09:37 AM..
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