Other Sports **Official USA vs Germany World Cup Match Thread** - Page 24

|Zach| · 06-26-2014, 05:44 AM

USA vs Germany | Recife | Group G | 11 CT | ESPN

This is the big one.

If the United States ties or wins they advance to the knock out stage of the World Cup. There are also scenarios that are not that outlandish that let them move on if they lose but **** those scenarios.

**DaFace** · 06-26-2014, 09:42 PM

I don't hate soccer, but this thread is kind of making me want to.

aturnis · 06-26-2014, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

The group stage isn't designed to eliminate one team with every game. It's designed to trim 32 down to 16 by advancing the 16 teams that perform the best over a 3 game span. The three game span is played in groups which are seeded and balanced to try to give the most measured answer to the question of who the best 16 teams are.

This is the opposite of the NCAA tournament, where everyone gets in and flukes abound. that tournament is designed to be "exciting" and unpredictable, this one is designed to settle the question of who is truly the best.

Good post.

Forgot, 15 of the 16 teams to move on were top 28 in the FIFA rankings.

Jewish Rabbi · 06-26-2014, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I don't hate soccer, but this thread is kind of making me want to.

I think it's only fair to hate the dumbasses posting in this thread. Each side of the argument is equally as obnoxious.

aturnis · 06-26-2014, 09:52 PM

Why would one come into a soccer thread and complain about advancing after a loss? It's silly, and happens regularly in the NFL.(team A needs a win, OR team B to lose)

**BigRedChief** · 06-26-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

First, your first point is bogus. Plenty of teams start of hot, then lose 4 of their last 6, (and not b/c of resting players) only to advance on tie breakers.

And again, 7-9, 8-8 get you to the dance.

They did win their way in. They won 3 points in their first game, and a forth in their second game. They earned those points.

comeon man I'm not soccer hating here.

Whether a team make the playoffs with a 7-9 or 8-8, start hot and finish cold or whatever extreme example you would like to give, they still "won" more games than their competition.

Successful Soccer is not based solely on winning matches. It is what it is.

aturnis · 06-26-2014, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

comeon man I'm not soccer hating here.

Whether a team make the playoffs with a 7-9 or 8-8, start hot and finish cold or whatever extreme example you would like to give, they still "won" more games than their competition.

So it's cool with you that a 7-9 team made the playoffs while a 10-6(or 11-4, can't remember) team stays home?

**alnorth** · 06-26-2014, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Why would one come into a soccer thread and complain about advancing after a loss? It's silly, and happens regularly in the NFL.(team A needs a win, OR team B to lose)

not only that, but why would one then be surprised and claim the people in the soccer thread are being "defensive" when they rip his reeruned posts apart?

If someone doesn't like soccer, then they are in enemy territory in here.

Eleazar · 06-26-2014, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Why would one come into a soccer thread and complain about (soccer)

Nobody would think it odd if a Bronco fan came into a Chiefs game thread and complained about not liking the Chiefs and then got pummeled, why would a soccer thread be any different

aturnis · 06-26-2014, 09:58 PM

You don't see me in baseball, hockey, NASCAR, basketball or country music threads.

**Reaper16** · 06-26-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I don't hate soccer, but this thread is kind of making me want to.

Because obvious troll behavior is getting treated like what it is? You're better than this.

WilliamTheIrish · 06-26-2014, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I don't hate soccer, but this thread is kind of making me want to.

I don't hate folks who don't like soccer, or can't comprehend the group stage, or have trouble reconciling a continuous clock, or extra time, or complain that it's boring, or that say, with the most sweeping, broad generalization, that "This is why Americans won't fall in love in with soccer like MLB, NFL, NBA"

But they are kind of making me want to.

I'll say this also, the sheer number of "people coming into the thread to bitch" posts in this thread is down from 2010 by a wide margin.

WilliamTheIrish · 06-26-2014, 10:01 PM

I guess Skip being greased '11 helped that percentage.

tk13 · 06-26-2014, 10:05 PM

I like the variety of the different sports. Maybe I'm the only one. I'm not a real big soccer fan but I enjoy the the World Cup... I like international competitions, the Olympics, etc. This format isn't much different than some Olympic sports. I don't have a problem with it. I'd agree that a majority of US sports fans are not in favor of games that end in ties though.

That's probably part of the reason why the NHL went to the shootout format... which is exciting but you could argue it's a cheap way to end a regular season game. The NBA playoffs last too long because they put 2-3 days between games. At least the NHL plays every other day... plus the playoff games can often be the most intense of the four sports. Baseball is often bound to tradition, it'd be hard to abandon the 162 game season with all the history and records that go with it. In its favor, the MLB is the most difficult sport to make the playoffs in. It's a grueling marathon and you have to earn it.

WilliamTheIrish · 06-26-2014, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I like the variety of the different sports. Maybe I'm the only one. I'm not a real big soccer fan but I enjoy the the World Cup... I like international competitions, the Olympics, etc. This format isn't much different than some Olympic sports. I don't have a problem with it. I'd agree that a majority of US sports fans are not in favor of games that end in ties though.

That's probably part of the reason why the NHL went to the shootout format... which is exciting but you could argue it's a cheap way to end a regular season game. The NBA playoffs last too long because they put 2-3 days between games. At least the NHL plays every other day... plus the playoff games can often be the most intense of the four sports. Baseball is often bound to tradition, it'd be hard to abandon the 162 game season with all the history and records that go with it. In its favor, the MLB is the most difficult sport to make the playoffs in. It's a grueling marathon and you have to earn it.

You've always been a great sports fan and one the few people who takes the nuances of games unfamiliar to heart instead of being hypercritical or ignorant.
Need more of that.

**notorious** · 06-26-2014, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

not only that, but why would one then be surprised and claim the people in the soccer thread are being "defensive" when they rip his reeruned posts apart?

If someone doesn't like soccer, then they are in enemy territory in here.

You are creating a ****ed-up narrative in your head that doesn't exist.

Maybe some other people are bagging on your sport, but when I came in here stating that "American's have a hard time grasping ties" you attack me.

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1962500	I like the variety of the different sports. Maybe I'm the only one. I'm not a real big soccer fan but I enjoy the the World Cup... I like international competitions, the Olympics, etc. This format isn't much different than some Olympic sports. I don't have a problem with it. I'd agree that a majority of US sports fans are not in favor of games that end in ties though. That's probably part of the reason why the NHL went to the shootout format... which is exciting but you could argue it's a cheap way to end a regular season game. The NBA playoffs last too long because they put 2-3 days between games. At least the NHL plays every other day... plus the playoff games can often be the most intense of the four sports. Baseball is often bound to tradition, it'd be hard to abandon the 162 game season with all the history and records that go with it. In its favor, the MLB is the most difficult sport to make the playoffs in. It's a grueling marathon and you have to earn it.
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