Chiefs Take a QB in the 1st round next year? - Page 7

Alphaman · 12-22-2008, 11:20 AM

Said Dolphins LB Akin Ayodele of Thigpen, who finished with 320 yards passing, “I like him. He’s an athletic quarterback. Brodie Croyle is going to watch his back next year. There’s going to be a battle for the starting position.”

When the opposition starts to give your young QB props, you have to a moment to really consider if you need to look for his replacement. I'd really try to get Rich Gannon to come in this offseason as a consultant and work with Thigpen for a few weeks. I'd ask him to go over film and work with him on the field to work through the nuances of the game, particularly executing the boot which Thigpen hasn't mastered yet.

**DeezNutz** · 12-22-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Boy, he lost a lot of weight between the combine and draft day then...

Here's a picture of him at the combine - with his height (top number) and weight (bottom number) written on a greaseboard.

211 is quite a difference from 185.

Dang. Smoked.

The 185 mark just sounded like bullshit, huh?

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 08:14 PM

Sure I got that wrong, just like other people get things wrong at times it happens. He obviously was not a big guy look at the picture you posted...

I don't really have any issues saying I quickly threw out a number I thought was close.

kcxiv · 12-22-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Wow... just wow.

Yep, we need Defense, Defense, Defense

KChiefs1 · 12-22-2008, 10:25 PM

Not going all Whitlock here but I'm starting to like the sound of this Nate Davis. If the Chiefs can get him with their 3rd round pick I'd be ecstatic.

Nate Davis Profile:

Nate Davis, QB, Ball State

Davis (the son of Bellaire, Ohio) is probably the next best QB to come out of the small school ranks. He started seven of twelve games as a true freshman in 2006, while completing 150 out of 245 passes for 1,975 yards with 18 TD and 8 INT. In 2007, Davis posted 3,667 yards worth of passing on 270 out of 478 attempts with 30 TD and just 6 INT -- he played his best against the best. Against the once powerful Nebraska Blackshirt defense, Davis took them for 422 yards and three TD. He was named the teams' Most Valuable Player after the season.

Davis has it all. A big frame, powerful arm, and accuracy to go along with them. He is athletic enough to buy time with his leg, and he goes through his progressions with relative ease. Check his second and third options rather regularly. He is a leader who takes command of the huddle. However, he lacks experience, his throwing motion needs refinement and his footwork needs more development.

Davis, a junior, is a rare physical specimen. He is a true NFL product. If he declares, and all indications points towards that, he would be highly sought after by many teams.

He is a second round talent who, with a great last two months of the season, could sneak into the later stages of the first round. Davis will be a starter in the NFL by 2010.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-22-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Not going all Whitlock here but I'm starting to like the sound of this Nate Davis. If the Chiefs can get him with their 3rd round pick I'd be ecstatic.

Nate Davis Profile:

Nate Davis, QB, Ball State

Davis (the son of Bellaire, Ohio) is probably the next best QB to come out of the small school ranks. He started seven of twelve games as a true freshman in 2006, while completing 150 out of 245 passes for 1,975 yards with 18 TD and 8 INT. In 2007, Davis posted 3,667 yards worth of passing on 270 out of 478 attempts with 30 TD and just 6 INT -- he played his best against the best. Against the once powerful Nebraska Blackshirt defense, Davis took them for 422 yards and three TD. He was named the teams' Most Valuable Player after the season.

Davis has it all. A big frame, powerful arm, and accuracy to go along with them. He is athletic enough to buy time with his leg, and he goes through his progressions with relative ease. Check his second and third options rather regularly. He is a leader who takes command of the huddle. However, he lacks experience, his throwing motion needs refinement and his footwork needs more development.

Davis, a junior, is a rare physical specimen. He is a true NFL product. If he declares, and all indications points towards that, he would be highly sought after by many teams.

He is a second round talent who, with a great last two months of the season, could sneak into the later stages of the first round. Davis will be a starter in the NFL by 2010.

Davis decided over 3 weeks ago to return to Ball State for his senior season.

Possibility he changes his mind with the recent coaching change.

KChiefs1 · 12-22-2008, 10:35 PM

Davis lost his coach...I believe he will change.

milkman · 12-22-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DT58HOF

well some people on ESPN say Tebow is a 3rd rounder, maybe we can get WR Crabtree from Texas Tech and a lineman and pickup Tebow in the 3rd and run this goofy offense with Tebow and Thiggy,lol
im sold on Bradford,im sold on Crabtree at WR im also sold on Harrel from Texas Tech,spelling might be wrong also i think our franchise QB is just a small trade away in Colt Brennan, i prefer Quinn but Brennan can be had for a cheaper price maybe a way to let LJ go???

I did not really believe that it was humanly possible to be this stupid.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-22-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Davis lost his coach...I believe he will change.

I'm off to the film room, but feel free in my absence to start laying the ground work for a case, so Mr. Davis can enter the Insane Asylum with quality representation.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-22-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

the QB class is not strong enough this year... I don't like stafford as much as a lot of other people do. Although, if we drafted bradford, you wouldn't hear me complain too much.

but I say OL/DL for the first pick

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I don't see much of a difference between Stafford, Bradford, Sanchez and Tebow. I say draft 1 of them at the top of the 2nd as I doubt all four will be picked by then.

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I might draft a QB, but I wouldn't go there with my #1.

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Originally Posted by milkman

I did not really believe that it was humanly possible to be this stupid.

We are absolutely stacked to the rafters on this one, as you can clearly see.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-22-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Davis lost his coach...I believe he will change.

Well, the initial observation breaks down as follows:

His control of the pocket and peripheral vision are very good; he tends to lead more than he get's forced.

His ability to make hay on the move is outstanding.

His passes/spirals are anything but pretty, but they're quick and they find their target more often than not.
Current ESPN stats show him at a 66% completion rate.

There's not a lot of quality footage on Davis, but even if you watch the opposing teams highlights of Davis getting trucked( I could only find one, which is a good thing ), it's very apparent that the kid is tough and does not fold.
A good showing at the Combine could change the landscape for Nate in a big way.

RustShack · 12-22-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I did not really believe that it was humanly possible to be this stupid.

RustShack · 12-22-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DT58HOF

well some people on ESPN say Tebow is a 3rd rounder, maybe we can get WR Crabtree from Texas Tech and a lineman and pickup Tebow in the 3rd and run this goofy offense with Tebow and Thiggy,lol
im sold on Bradford,im sold on Crabtree at WR im also sold on Harrel from Texas Tech,spelling might be wrong also i think our franchise QB is just a small trade away in Colt Brennan, i prefer Quinn but Brennan can be had for a cheaper price maybe a way to let LJ go???

RUSH · 12-23-2008, 12:05 AM

If Detroit passes on Stafford then pick him. If they don't pass on him then go OT. Hopefully we get the 2nd pick and Smith is there, he would make a great RT. I don't think the DE's are good enough for a top 3 pick.

KCrockaholic · 12-23-2008, 01:03 AM

All this Tebow talk makes me wonder if he could be a good fullback one day? prefect size for a FB, but does he have the mentality or will for it? I know hes damn tough, but i dont see him becoming a good QB either.

Mecca · 12-23-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH

If Detroit passes on Stafford then pick him. If they don't pass on him then go OT. Hopefully we get the 2nd pick and Smith is there, he would make a great RT. I don't think the DE's are good enough for a top 3 pick.

You don't use top 5 picks on right tackles....it's a reeruned idea and reeruned to even bring up.

12-22-2008, 11:20 AM
Alphaman Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Austin, TX, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Take a QB in the 1st round next year? Said Dolphins LB Akin Ayodele of Thigpen, who finished with 320 yards passing, “I like him. He’s an athletic quarterback. Brodie Croyle is going to watch his back next year. There’s going to be a battle for the starting position.” When the opposition starts to give your young QB props, you have to a moment to really consider if you need to look for his replacement. I'd really try to get Rich Gannon to come in this offseason as a consultant and work with Thigpen for a few weeks. I'd ask him to go over film and work with him on the field to work through the nuances of the game, particularly executing the boot which Thigpen hasn't mastered yet.
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12-22-2008, 08:14 PM	#92
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2377050	Sure I got that wrong, just like other people get things wrong at times it happens. He obviously was not a big guy look at the picture you posted... I don't really have any issues saying I quickly threw out a number I thought was close.
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12-22-2008, 10:25 PM	#94
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Not going all Whitlock here but I'm starting to like the sound of this Nate Davis. If the Chiefs can get him with their 3rd round pick I'd be ecstatic. Nate Davis Profile: Nate Davis, QB, Ball State Davis (the son of Bellaire, Ohio) is probably the next best QB to come out of the small school ranks. He started seven of twelve games as a true freshman in 2006, while completing 150 out of 245 passes for 1,975 yards with 18 TD and 8 INT. In 2007, Davis posted 3,667 yards worth of passing on 270 out of 478 attempts with 30 TD and just 6 INT -- he played his best against the best. Against the once powerful Nebraska Blackshirt defense, Davis took them for 422 yards and three TD. He was named the teams' Most Valuable Player after the season. Davis has it all. A big frame, powerful arm, and accuracy to go along with them. He is athletic enough to buy time with his leg, and he goes through his progressions with relative ease. Check his second and third options rather regularly. He is a leader who takes command of the huddle. However, he lacks experience, his throwing motion needs refinement and his footwork needs more development. Davis, a junior, is a rare physical specimen. He is a true NFL product. If he declares, and all indications points towards that, he would be highly sought after by many teams. He is a second round talent who, with a great last two months of the season, could sneak into the later stages of the first round. Davis will be a starter in the NFL by 2010. __________________
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12-22-2008, 10:35 PM	#96
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Davis lost his coach...I believe he will change. __________________
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12-23-2008, 12:05 AM	#103
RUSH Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NY Casino cash: $10004905	If Detroit passes on Stafford then pick him. If they don't pass on him then go OT. Hopefully we get the 2nd pick and Smith is there, he would make a great RT. I don't think the DE's are good enough for a top 3 pick.
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12-23-2008, 01:03 AM	#104
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4632900	All this Tebow talk makes me wonder if he could be a good fullback one day? prefect size for a FB, but does he have the mentality or will for it? I know hes damn tough, but i dont see him becoming a good QB either.
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