Chiefs Take a QB in the 1st round next year? - Page 8

Alphaman · 12-22-2008, 11:20 AM

Said Dolphins LB Akin Ayodele of Thigpen, who finished with 320 yards passing, “I like him. He’s an athletic quarterback. Brodie Croyle is going to watch his back next year. There’s going to be a battle for the starting position.”

When the opposition starts to give your young QB props, you have to a moment to really consider if you need to look for his replacement. I'd really try to get Rich Gannon to come in this offseason as a consultant and work with Thigpen for a few weeks. I'd ask him to go over film and work with him on the field to work through the nuances of the game, particularly executing the boot which Thigpen hasn't mastered yet.

RUSH · 12-23-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You don't use top 5 picks on right tackles....it's a reeruned idea and reeruned to even bring up.

I'm guessing your the resident asshole around here? You could have respectively disagreed and gave reasons why. But I guess there's always got to be one on every board. I'm not the one who makes up lies to back up their points, so you should be the last person throwing the "reeruned" word around.

Mecca · 12-23-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH

I'm guessing your the resident asshole around here? You could have respectively disagreed and gave reasons why. But I guess there's always got to be one on every board. I'm not the one who makes up lies to back up their points, so you should be the last person throwing the "reeruned" word around.

It's been discussed 852 times I lose my patience after the 100th time.

RustShack · 12-23-2008, 01:30 AM

I haven't read through this, but is someone talking about using a first round pick(top three for that matter) on a RT again?

RustShack · 12-23-2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH

If Detroit passes on Stafford then pick him. If they don't pass on him then go OT. Hopefully we get the 2nd pick and Smith is there, he would make a great RT. I don't think the DE's are good enough for a top 3 pick.

Let me get this straight, a RT is worth a top three pick but a RE(one of the most important positions on a defense) isn't?

Mecca · 12-23-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Let me get this straight, a RT is worth a top three pick but a RE(one of the most important positions on a defense) isn't?

Look I understand at times positional value can be overrated but if the guy was a OT worth a top 5 pick guess what...he's a LT.

If you don't like the DE's please pick another position, you'd be better off with Taylor Mays than taking a RT.

RustShack · 12-23-2008, 01:39 AM

Honestly if we drafted a OT in the top three I would play him at LT even if we drafted Albert the first. If Albert can't play RG then move him back to LG like he played in college. I'm sure Waters could handle RG or even C. If waters played C then we could try Niswanger out at RG for a year.

RUSH · 12-23-2008, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's been discussed 852 times I lose my patience after the 100th time.

Well I just joined, obviously wasn't here for that. I stated an opinion, and maybe it was off-base, I don't know everything. I come to places like these to hear different viewpoints and learn. A quick answer wouldn't kill ya, or just ignore me.

Mecca · 12-23-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH

Well I just joined, obviously wasn't here for that. I stated an opinion, and maybe it was off-base, I don't know everything. I come to places like these to hear different viewpoints and learn. A quick answer wouldn't kill ya, or just ignore me.

It's fine.....if you really think it's a good idea you can explain it out, I just don't think it would be a good idea, unless of course your QB was left handed.

Albert has done a very good job there's no reason to burn another really high pick on another LT, unless you are going to hire a coach who thinks running 5 WR's out into the pattern every play and going minimum protection is how you play offense so you need a dominant lineman and 2 outstanding OT's.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-23-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's been discussed 852 times I lose my patience after the 100th time.

A-****ingMen.

Chiefnj2 · 12-23-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Look I understand at times positional value can be overrated but if the guy was a OT worth a top 5 pick guess what...he's a LT.

If you don't like the DE's please pick another position, you'd be better off with Taylor Mays than taking a RT.

Taking the best player, even at RT isn't such a bad idea.

Some of the top teams and up and coming teams in the AFC (Pitt, NE, Balt, Miami, Chargers) play out of a 3-4. They bring pressure from their OLB's on both sides of the line.

Other top 4-3 teams now have good rushers on both ends (Tennesse and Indy). Since the NFL is a copy cat league more teams will try to follow the NYG example and put good pass rushers on both sides of the ball.

It isn't really a case of "just stop Jared Allen on right side" and we don't have to worry too much about the left.

IF a franchise QB or DE isn't available and the next highest rated player is a RT, it isn't such a bad idea.

RustShack · 12-23-2008, 09:34 AM

Except if you go that route the RT would be a much better LT prospect than our current LT, and I'm not saying Albert is bad at all.

BigCatDaddy · 12-23-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Except if you go that route the RT would be a much better LT prospect than our current LT, and I'm not saying Albert is bad at all.

Smith will be the first OT off the board and would play LT. Albert would be moved to RT or Guard. You would have one of the best tackle tandems in football for the next 12 years. Other then QB, I think this would be the way to go if you draft on the offensive side of the ball.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-23-2008, 10:44 AM

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Idahojim · 12-23-2008, 12:32 PM

Thigpen has proved that the Chiefs offense can score points. What they need in the draft and free agency more than anything are stud defensive players - linebackers and forces on the D-line. Other than Sam Bradford, I don't see anyone I'd go with in the first round at this point.

Coach · 12-23-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Smith will be the first OT off the board and would play LT. Albert would be moved to RT or Guard. You would have one of the best tackle tandems in football for the next 12 years. Other then QB, I think this would be the way to go if you draft on the offensive side of the ball.

I would not move Albert under any circumstances at all. I mean, goddamn, he literally dominated Joey Porter. It seemed like Porter never showed up.

And honestly, I can remember at least 3 sacks that he may have given up during his time here (There could be more, but I'm just basing it off of my head). That's pretty damn impressive for a rookie. And on top of that, he did miss all or at least the majority of training camp.

So, that being said, I would not move Albert under any circumstances at all.

12-22-2008, 11:20 AM
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12-23-2008, 01:30 AM	#108
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12-23-2008, 01:39 AM	#111
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4596954	Honestly if we drafted a OT in the top three I would play him at LT even if we drafted Albert the first. If Albert can't play RG then move him back to LG like he played in college. I'm sure Waters could handle RG or even C. If waters played C then we could try Niswanger out at RG for a year. __________________
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12-23-2008, 09:34 AM	#116
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4596954	Except if you go that route the RT would be a much better LT prospect than our current LT, and I'm not saying Albert is bad at all. __________________
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12-23-2008, 12:32 PM	#119
Idahojim Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Nampa, Idaho, USA Casino cash: $9965995	Thigpen has proved that the Chiefs offense can score points. What they need in the draft and free agency more than anything are stud defensive players - linebackers and forces on the D-line. Other than Sam Bradford, I don't see anyone I'd go with in the first round at this point.
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