Wakarusa coming to Arkansas

[NewChief]

I know that Carl just resigned and all, but I thought I'd share the good (for us) news. I know some of the Kansans will be unhappy, but Wakarusa is coming to the Ozarks. The chosen site is absolutely beautiful. I just hope that the lineup matches last year's.

[phisherman]

i'm just hoping that they keep the indie acts coming along with jambands.

wilco and the flaming lips were huge the last few years!

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by phisherman

i'm just hoping that they keep the indie acts coming along with jambands.

wilco and the flaming lips were huge the last few years!

Yeah, I'm really hoping they continue with the diverse lineup. Some potential non-jam bands I'd like to see:

Wilco
My Morning Jacket
Band of Horses
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Sufjan Stevens
Stephen Malkmus
Arcade Fire (yeah right, but I can dream)
Fiery Furnaces
Cold War Kids

Black Keys
Modest Mouse
Carolina Chocolate Drops (side stage)
Hayes Carll (side stage)

[eazyb81]

I saw most of those acts at Bonnaroo the last couple years.

[phisherman]

band of horses would be NICE

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

I saw most of those acts at Bonnaroo the last couple years.

Bonnaroo definitely has the killer lineup, along with Coachella and Lollapalooza. Unfortunately, Bonnaroo isn't 45 minutes from my house.

[NewChief]

Lineup was posted. I'm not that excited:
#Yonder Mountain String Band
# STS9
# Galactic
# Buckethead
# Sly & Robbie
# Railroad Earth
# Cross Canadian Ragweed
# Digable Planets
# Porter, Batiste & Stoltz
# Steve Kimock & Crazy Engine
# Perpetual Groove
# Split Lip Rayfield
# Lucero
# The Egg
# 2020 Soundsystem
# Jimmy Herring Band
# Cornmeal
# EOTO
# Boombox
# Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey
# Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit
# Secret Chiefs 3
# Joe Purdy
# Dirtfoot
# Pretty Lights
# Big Smith
# Giant Panda Guerilla Dub Squad
# Ott
# Heavyweight Dub Champion
# DJ Rekha
# Underground Orchestra
# Moonalice
# My Dear Disco
# Blue Mountain
# Truckstop Honeymoon
# Elephant Revival
# Burnin' Smyrnans
# Euforquestra
# Hana Pest

[phisherman]

i saw that list too and i hope they have a big mainstage act up their sleeves, because this lineup is s**t.

i understand the need for the "2nd tier" type jambands, but it's hard to base a whole festival off of them.

when sound tribe and yonder are your anchors, you better just hope that the beauty of mulberry will bring the hippies in.

[eazyb81]

STS9 is awesome, I'm hoping they come to Bonaroo this year.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by phisherman

i saw that list too and i hope they have a big mainstage act up their sleeves, because this lineup is s**t.

i understand the need for the "2nd tier" type jambands, but it's hard to base a whole festival off of them.

when sound tribe and yonder are your anchors, you better just hope that the beauty of mulberry will bring the hippies in.

I would hardly consider Yonder a "2nd tier" jamband. They sell out shows across the nation. Galactic too.

That being said, it isn't a great lineup, but I will probably make the jaunt to see Yonder, Galactic, Split Lip, Cornmeal (up and coming, destined for big things), and Railroad Earth.

[phisherman]

selling out venues of around 1500-2000 doesn't mean you're out of the 2nd tier yet. Umphrey's McGee is selling out much larger venues than that and I still consider them 2nd tier behind bands like Panic and Phish.

these bands sell out amphitheater size venues consistently.

you have to ask, could Yonder Mountain anchor a summer tour of amphitheaters? the answer is no.

[Demonpenz]

Damn they move it and have a weak lineup

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by phisherman

selling out venues of around 1500-2000 doesn't mean you're out of the 2nd tier yet. Umphrey's McGee is selling out much larger venues than that and I still consider them 2nd tier behind bands like Panic and Phish.

these bands sell out amphitheater size venues consistently.

you have to ask, could Yonder Mountain anchor a summer tour of amphitheaters? the answer is no.

So by your definition, Widespread is the only 1st tier act around. Phish hasn't played in years and even String Cheese would have a hard time doing that. Leftover never could have done that and I hardly consider them 2nd tier. Additionally, I would wager Yonder sells more merch and more tickets annually than Umphrey's. I'm also curious what larger venues Umphrey's plays that Yonder doesn't. If you look at both Yonder and Umphrey's tour stops, they play the exact same venues.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by phisherman

selling out venues of around 1500-2000 doesn't mean you're out of the 2nd tier yet. Umphrey's McGee is selling out much larger venues than that and I still consider them 2nd tier behind bands like Panic and Phish.

these bands sell out amphitheater size venues consistently.

you have to ask, could Yonder Mountain anchor a summer tour of amphitheaters? the answer is no.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with your definition of 1st tier vs. everyone else. The Grateful Dead, Panic, and Phish are about the only first tier bands. DMB is sort of one, but they're not really a jam band anymore. The fact is that the whole jam band scene has gotten weak in comparison to the heyday when there were enough audiences out there to support a ton of bands. People just don't toll out to shows like they used tol.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by NewPhin

Yeah, I pretty much agree with your definition of 1st tier vs. everyone else. The Grateful Dead, Panic, and Phish are about the only first tier bands. DMB is sort of one, but they're not really a jam band anymore. The fact is that the whole jam band scene has gotten weak in comparison to the heyday when there were enough audiences out there to support a ton of bands. People just don't toll out to shows like they used tol.

I can agree with that, but it doesn't bother me much. I would much rather go to a more intimate setting like the Pageant (here in St. Louis) than Riverport Amphitheater.

I think the biggest factor is that the jamband scene has become divided. There are many sub-scenes now.