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Old 04-23-2008, 05:37 AM  
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Props to CP!!! We essentially got 2 1st rounders for JA!
We received the Vikings 1st round pick #17 overall and BOTH of their 3rd round picks (#73 and #82).

Now, follow along here:

If you take the draft value chart, the combined value of the two 3rd round picks is 405 pts which is equivalent to the #17 or #18 pick in the 2nd round this year.

Now, a 1st round pick NEXT YEAR (2009) is equivalent to a 2nd round pick THIS YEAR (2008), meaning the #17 or #18 pick in the 2nd round is equivalent to the #17 or #18 pick overall in 2009.

Strictly from a draft value chart standard, we received the #17 overall pick in 2008 and the #17 or #18 pick overall in 2009.

Just giving credit where credit is due, and we are in great position now (if our draft board is setup correctly - a big if) to get SEVEN (7) of the top 100 players in the draft.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:22 AM   #61
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Out of curiosity, what is a 3rd DUI in Missouri worth?
A first round pick in 2010.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:23 AM   #62
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Actually, Beathard was the guy trading away future firsts.
I'm pretty sure that's what I was saying, since that was the gist of Rainman's "system".
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:23 AM   #63
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What Carl has done over the years is allowed his head coach and coordinators strongly influence his decisions in the early rounds, and then let Chuck Cook and the scouting staff influence his later round decisions.

What we've seen over the years is that Marty, Gunt and Dick sucked ass at talent evaluation, and that Chuck Cook and his staff have a pretty good eye.
Still CP's fault for letting them have too much controll.

At the end of the day Carl is responsible.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:24 AM   #64
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I've been thinking... Professional sports players lack any type of loyalty to their fans! Jared Allen = perfect example. Allen decided he wanted out of the red and gold because of something CP did. Carl Peterson doesn't pay his salary. We, the fans, pay his salary. I'm tired of rooting for a team, when every few years everyone is gone and you're looking at all new faces and you root for these new guys simply because of the color of jersey they are wearing. I see both the pros and cons of this trade and I'm glad it has happened. I won't be rooting for Jared as a Viking, but I will say this. Thank you Jared for the 3 draft picks we got out of your unloyal ass!! Have a drink on me!
Right now I hope Jared breaks his leg stepping out for his morning paper.
And Carl has a cerebral hemorrhage and keels over dead.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:31 AM   #65
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Wha? Jared taking the wrong cold medicine will get him kicked out for a year. This isn't limited to drinking, or DUIs.
Yep, i think since you changed your Avatar people dont take you as serious. j/k

i agree 100% and i think anyone complaing about this deal is just doing so for the sake or argument.

the fans like JA..

i think JA likes the fans here in KC...

JA doesnt like CP.. nor does the fans....

trading as was done is the best scenerio given that JA has the contract he wants, the chiefs dont have to shell out 31 mill Gaurnteed(sp) and we get some really good picks and a CHANCE to have a very good draft. so JA leaves KC the fans are happy b/c its on good terms for us and we dont get shafted like Tait....

call me old fashion but theres really nothing to complain about. we are NOT going to be a contender this year and possible 09 as well. why pay all that cash to have him sit here, while we in 5 games?

in conclusion... right on brock!
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:31 AM   #66
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I gave up on the Chiefs today. Trading their best player for a chance to draft a couple of maybe's who of course they've proven that they don't have a clue when it comes to the draft. This team has officially become a joke.
I'm so fucking pissed I'm seriously considering caring about the Bronco's now since I have to watch them every week regardless.
Why the fuck should I renew Sunday Ticket when my team doesn't give a shit about what they put on the field.
At least the Bronco's care about winning.
Oh I know. I'm supposed to get over it.
I'm not quite there, but I can certainly sympathize.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:13 AM   #67
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I don't think you can give all the credit to Carl for getting us to this point. JA deserves a good share of it. JA is the one how racked up a couple of DUIs. JA is the one who got pissy when the team refused to give him a major contract on the heals of a substance abuse suspension even though he still had a year left to play out on his contract. And JA is the one who showed up to the 101 banquet in a freaking tuxedo t-shirt, for goodness sake.

My preference would have been for the Chiefs and JA to work out a reasonable deal to keep JA in Chiefs red for a long time, but JA made the choice that he didn't want to be here.
fuck Allen.
And Carl can go fuck off and die.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:30 AM   #68
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I gave up on the Chiefs today. Trading their best player for a chance to draft a couple of maybe's who of course they've proven that they don't have a clue when it comes to the draft. This team has officially become a joke.
I'm so fucking pissed I'm seriously considering caring about the Bronco's now since I have to watch them every week regardless.
Why the fuck should I renew Sunday Ticket when my team doesn't give a shit about what they put on the field.
At least the Bronco's care about winning.
Oh I know. I'm supposed to get over it.
Yeah, I find it extremely short sighted, to think this was a good deal. The Chief's have only had two impact defensive players, in the last two decades that they drafted of this caliber. DT and JA, you can NOT trade him, but they did.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:33 AM   #69
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You didn't just compare Derrick Thomas to Jared Allen....jesus....
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:35 AM   #70
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You didn't just compare Derrick Thomas to Jared Allen....jesus....
Yes, I have done it on this board numerous times. Got a problem with it?
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:36 AM   #71
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Yes, I have done it on this board numerous times. Got a problem with it?
No, I'm very tolerant of special needs people.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:11 PM   #75
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To those unsure about why a draft pick today is worth more than a draft pick tomorrow:

There is obviously value to having a commodity NOW rather than in a year. Money is one such commodity. There is interest, even in a fixed money supply system. Granted, if you feel the next years commodity will be more or less valuable due to other circumstances, that risk premium will be factored into the rate at which you lend, borrow or trade.
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