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Old 12-11-2014, 09:58 AM   #1
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bowe can't get open or something....

Is this gonna turn into an Alexcuses vs Blowe Pops thread again?
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:59 AM   #2
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bowe can't get open or something...

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Smith has pristine protection. He has to see this play down the field. Bowe is about to break WIDE OPEN with the deep safety responsible for him. Wilson runs a fabulous route here, forcing Peterson to turn his hips and run, moving him away from Bowe. This should absolutely be a touchdown, every single time...

...Smith takes his eyes away from his downfield receivers way too quickly and looks for his checkdown. This is exactly what the Cardinals want from Smith. Meanwhile, Bowe could not be any more open. Literally, Bowe could have moonwalked into the end zone. Instead, it is a minimal gain instead of seven points.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:01 AM   #3
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:04 AM   #4
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I refuse to believe that all of a sudden bpwe just sucks. For **** same he had good years with Huard, Thigpen, and Cassel as his QB.


Smith just will not throw it down field. Andy needs to get rid of the check Down option at to es. Take his ass throw it or get sacked.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:30 AM   #5
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Get rid of Alex Smith problem solved.
Again, treating the symptom and not the disease...

Looking at Reids history proves that Smith is just a symptom of the problem.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:49 AM   #6
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Again, treating the symptom and not the disease...

Looking at Reids history proves that Smith is just a symptom of the problem.
In a lot of ways, yeah. He runs too little overall, doesn't run in obvious run situations, and manages the 2 minute drill as bad as any coach I've ever seen. He's also pretty notorious for clueless coach challenges.

When it comes to Alex being too timid to throw beyond 10 yards... that's not Reid nor is it design as much as some want to pretend. Alex has taken his timid QB play to the next level of timidity. No other QB under Reid has been so timid throwing the ball. I'm not sure I've seen many QB's who seem scared to throw over 15 yards even when the guy is wide open.

KC brought in bizarro Marty, and we're going to reap marty like results.
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Old 12-11-2014, 11:06 AM   #7
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In a lot of ways, yeah. He runs too little overall, doesn't run in obvious run situations, and manages the 2 minute drill as bad as any coach I've ever seen. He's also pretty notorious for clueless coach challenges.

When it comes to Alex being too timid to throw beyond 10 yards... that's not Reid nor is it design as much as some want to pretend. Alex has taken his timid QB play to the next level of timidity. No other QB under Reid has been so timid throwing the ball. I'm not sure I've seen many QB's who seem scared to throw over 15 yards even when the guy is wide open.

KC brought in bizarro Marty, and we're going to reap marty like results.
It's been said before... but Alex Smith plays the QB position like a coward, at least in terms of decisions about where to throw the football.

That lets defenses be much, much more aggressive around the LOS and makes it really hard to run the ball effectively... screen pass effectively... make YAC plays off of short passes, etc.
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Again, treating the symptom and not the disease...

Looking at Reids history proves that Smith is just a symptom of the problem.
Considering the article, Reid may have been right to call a pass heavy game. Clearly, receivers were getting open. The Cardinals were keyed in on Charles and when that happens, the Chiefs have to make plays in the passing game to give Charles room again.

Smith isn't making the plays he needs to make.

The Coach was trying to take advantage of the opportunities given to his offense.

His QB and O-line simply didn't get the job done.
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Considering the article, Reid may have been right to call a pass heavy game. Clearly, receivers were getting open. The Cardinals were keyed in on Charles and when that happens, the Chiefs have to make plays in the passing game to give Charles room again.

Smith isn't making the plays he needs to make.

The Coach was trying to take advantage of the opportunities given to his offense.

His QB and O-line simply didn't get the job done.
Dude....you're arguing with a wall. Reerun will always blame the coach.

Reid's playcalling has been suspect in some games (Titans and 49ers) but I think it's looking even worse right now because of the QB's inability to throw the ball and make the correct reads....and then Reid's inability or unwillingness to pull players like McGlynn from the starting lineup.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:55 AM   #10
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Dude....you're arguing with a wall. Reerun will always blame the coach.

Reid's playcalling has been suspect in some games (Titans and 49ers) but I think it's looking even worse right now because of the QB's inability to throw the ball and make the correct reads....and then Reid's inability or unwillingness to pull players like McGlynn from the starting lineup.
Its the same shit we went through Cassel and Haley... Gonna go through it again with Reid and Smith...

And why not blame the Coach.... Look at the Chiefs coaching hires the past 30 years...
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Dude....you're arguing with a wall. Reerun will always blame the coach.

Reid's playcalling has been suspect in some games (Titans and 49ers) but I think it's looking even worse right now because of the QB's inability to throw the ball and make the correct reads....and then Reid's inability or unwillingness to pull players like McGlynn from the starting lineup.
I agree that we don't run the ball enough, and on the McGlynn comment, but I wouldn't calling Reids playcalling 'suspect'. We run the same passing concepts as other NFL teams.. it wouldnt matter where Alex went, if he isn't making reads there isn't anything Andy can do to help make him throw the ball. Teams are already rotating a safety down on us to stop charles. I was a big Alex supporter until I started looking at some of A22 from the past few games. I know its not all Alex's fault, but he has to throw the damn ball.
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Considering the article, Reid may have been right to call a pass heavy game. Clearly, receivers were getting open. The Cardinals were keyed in on Charles and when that happens, the Chiefs have to make plays in the passing game to give Charles room again.

Smith isn't making the plays he needs to make.

The Coach was trying to take advantage of the opportunities given to his offense.

His QB and O-line simply didn't get the job done.
Coach is still leaving in the check down option in his play calling and play design..

You cant ask for someone to change when you keep giving them the option to take the easy way out. Its not rocket science.

IF Reid wants Alex to throw to open receivers then Reid needs to take away his safe outlets.
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Coach is still leaving in the check down option in his play calling and play design..
Well no shit. Not giving him a checkdown option would be horrible play design.

The receivers aren't going to be able to break free every single play. You don't just leave your QB hanging out to to dry no matter how badly you want to force him to throw downfield.

THAT is a recipe for disaster.
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Coach is still leaving in the check down option in his play calling and play design..

You cant ask for someone to change when you keep giving them the option to take the easy way out. Its not rocket science.

IF Reid wants Alex to throw to open receivers then Reid needs to take away his safe outlets.
Im sorry, but that's horrible logic. Just awful.
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Coach is still leaving in the check down option in his play calling and play design..

You cant ask for someone to change when you keep giving them the option to take the easy way out. Its not rocket science.

IF Reid wants Alex to throw to open receivers then Reid needs to take away his safe outlets.
What an embarrassing display of complete failure to understand how football plays work.
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