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Old 01-08-2013, 07:43 PM   #1
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:44 PM   #2
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People who want Ryan as DC don't watch football and just listen to the media hacks who are constantly on his jock.
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People who want Ryan as DC don't watch football and just listen to the media hacks who are constantly on his jock.
He has long hair and yells a lot! He has to be good!
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:44 PM   #4
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He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:48 PM   #5
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He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th
Right, and the teams records were losing records. I admit right now I don't recall his d much in Oakland but they lost the games I did see from having no offense. Look at the chiefs d stats this year, true representation of Gibbs and his d, or because the o never got going?

Not trying to argue for Ryan, but I want to see a better arguement than this one
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:53 PM   #6
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Not trying to argue for Ryan, but I want to see a better arguement than this one
Ryan sucked in Dallas. The Cowboys "weak link" was supposedly their secondary, so Jones signed Carr and drafted the highest rated "safe" corner in LSU's Morris Claiborne.

The result was that Dallas gave up even more points than the previous year.

Ryan sucks.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:22 PM   #7
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Ryan sucked in Dallas. The Cowboys "weak link" was supposedly their secondary, so Jones signed Carr and drafted the highest rated "safe" corner in LSU's Morris Claiborne.

The result was that Dallas gave up even more points than the previous year.

Ryan sucks.
Does that take into account special teams scoring and offensive turnovers for scores?
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Does that take into account special teams scoring and offensive turnovers for scores?
As far as I know, it's just defensive points only.

Regardless, the defense definitely took a step back after adding two highly sought after cornerbacks, which I'm sure played a major role into why he was fired.

That defense has a lot of talent.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:50 PM   #9
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He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th
Q you stupid douche
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:56 PM   #10
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He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th
2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan
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2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan
Some of the best defensive teams in NFL history have had shit QB play. I don't buy that argument.
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Some of the best defensive teams in NFL history have had shit QB play. I don't buy that argument.
not first round QB bust after first round QB bust shit QB play though

id like to see you make a career as a DC with Jamarcus Russel and Brady Quinn
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2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan

Horseshit! The Cowboys put up over 23ppg which was 15th both years. That is not even in the same universe as the Chiefs 13ppg (31st & 32nd). Ryan fielded a below average defense with an average offense.
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I hate Rob Ryan with a passion. The guy has been a career failure as a DC yet runs his mouth like he's the greatest ever. Lucky for us Reid won't be stupid enough to hire that self promoting fraud.
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and Rob Ryan's coaches

Lane Kiffin, Eric Mangini, Jason Garrett

I know Rob Ryan sucks but holy shit he has been with some absolute trash Head Coaches/QB tandems for 90 percent of DC resume
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