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Old 12-20-2011, 04:36 PM  
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Ross Tucker on 810 this morning, just caught the replay...
Tucker played for New England under BB and was subsequently traded to Cleveland and played under RAC.

Tucker said without any hesitation that the whole way the Browns were run was different. If guys jumped offsides in practice in New England, they ran. In Cleveland, they weren't often punished. When ST practiced in New England, the rest of the team had their assignments. In Cleveland, the offensive line often stood around and watched the other units practice.

He didn't sound very supportive of the idea of Romeo as a HC.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:17 PM   #31
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He could be different now.
He could be but is it logical to think he is when the only evidence is to the contrary?
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:20 PM   #32
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He could be but is it logical to think he is when the only evidence is to the contrary?
What evidence? The only real evidence about how he is now as a coach is that the Chiefs just beat a team that was favored by 14 points.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:21 PM   #33
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What evidence? The only real evidence about how he is now as a coach is that the Chiefs just beat a team that was favored by 14 points.
OK, so now we've completely erased what Tucker said because it doesn't fit what we want to believe. It never happened.

Got it.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:23 PM   #34
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OK, so now we've completely erased what Tucker said because it doesn't fit what we want to believe. It never happened.

Got it.

How long was Tucker with Romeo again?
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:26 PM   #35
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How long was Tucker with Romeo again?
It doesn't matter unless one is willing to draw the conclusion that Romeo ran the team one way for a few days and then did a complete 180 the minute Tucker left.
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OK, so now we've completely erased what Tucker said because it doesn't fit what we want to believe. It never happened.

Got it.
Look, Romeo might flame out again, but if the team plays hard for him the last two games he's a more sure option in my eyes than Fisher or some assistant. He wouldn't be a ten or even five year option, I'd feel good about him next year.
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By the way hard ass coaches can be just as ineffective as players coaches. Hopeful a coach can find a middle ground.
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Look, Romeo might flame out again, but if the team plays hard for him the last two games he's a more sure option in my eyes than Fisher or some assistant. He wouldn't be a ten or even five year option, I'd feel good about him next year.
I can definitely agree with all of that.

I'm not suggesting it's a show-stopper, especially given the alternatives that appear to be (or not to be) out there. But it's worthy of discussion, especially since the Herm era was less than 3 years ago...
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TBH, Im fine with Romeo as long as HE gets to choose his coordinators.

Id like to see him get the job, hire Nolan as his DC (if he is fired in Miami, as assumed) and with some hope, hire a premier offensive coordinator like crater face to run the offense.

I think that would give Romeo the ability to truly succeed in this job because crater face would know what he is doing with quarterbacks and wouldnt stand for a guy like Cassel going forward.
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Who the **** is Ross Tucker?

Why should I care what he says?
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TBH, Im fine with Romeo as long as HE gets to choose his coordinators.

Id like to see him get the job, hire Nolan as his DC (if he is fired in Miami, as assumed) and with some hope, hire a premier offensive coordinator like crater face to run the offense.

I think that would give Romeo the ability to truly succeed in this job because crater face would know what he is doing with quarterbacks and wouldnt stand for a guy like Cassel going forward.
Which is as it Should be. If McDaniels is the OC we'll know Pioli got his nose where it doesn't belong.
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By the way hard ass coaches can be just as ineffective as players coaches. Hopeful a coach can find a middle ground.
Hard ass coaches can definitely be ineffective. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say "just as".

I'm having trouble thinking of quote/unquote "players coaches" that were highly successful.
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Who the **** is Ross Tucker?

Why should I care what he says?
It was mentioned in the beginning of the thread - he played for RAC/BB in New England and also for RAC in Cleveland.
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Of all the mediocre choices out there, I'm leaning towards Brian Billick myself. He's had success as an offensive coordinator and success as a HC with a defense.
Yuck. That moron thought Kyle Boller was a QB.
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Hard ass coaches can definitely be ineffective. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say "just as".

I'm having trouble thinking of quote/unquote "players coaches" that were highly successful.
Was Dungy? I'm not sure. He's most likely a coach that found that happy medium.
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