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Old 04-30-2007, 10:58 PM  
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Did yoiu guys see the ecw guys on raw getting pissed that vince won the ecw belts and tommy speaking from his heart. I so want to see them kill vince soul tomorrow.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:56 AM   #31
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RVD leaving is his own damn fault.........they offered him a better deal than the one he has now......

Cena is just so stale at this point, I find myself wanting Khali to kick his ass, that shows you how tired I've grown of him. People bitched about Triple H constantly being champ......Cena's right up there with him.

They've actually gone out of their way to make new stars, they all have issues.......some are injury prone, some aren't rounded enough, some are just immature and stupid.......
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:59 AM   #32
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Where is RVD now? Benoit? JERICHO????
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:59 AM   #33
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RVD leaving is his own damn fault.........they offered him a better deal than the one he has now......

Cena is just so stale at this point, I find myself wanting Khali to kick his ass, that shows you how tired I've grown of him. People bitched about Triple H constantly being champ......Cena's right up there with him.
I don't disagree with that. Problem is, like I said, it's the same guys constantly feuding, and there's no top talent.

But if not Cena, then who? Khali would be horrible. Umaga is already getting old.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:00 AM   #34
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They've actually gone out of their way to make new stars, they all have issues.......some are injury prone, some aren't rounded enough, some are just immature and stupid.......
Concensus seems to be that in killing the territories, they killed their own talent pool that they were drawing from...

I don't know how they'll fix it.

I'd actually like to see more stuff like what they did with "santino morelli", who apparently was a turd in OVW, but I like the sheer 'wtf?" of putting a belt on him like that.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:01 AM   #35
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I think Khali is fine for what he is, the big freak show guys will always have a place in the wrestling world. Even if he were to win they'd just have Cena chase him till Summerslam and win it back there.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:02 AM   #36
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Problem with Khali is that he can't have a match that lasts more than 5 minutes, and a main event on a ppv needs to be more substantial than that.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:03 AM   #37
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Concensus seems to be that in killing the territories, they killed their own talent pool that they were drawing from...

I don't know how they'll fix it.

I'd actually like to see more stuff like what they did with "santino morelli", who apparently was a turd in OVW, but I like the sheer 'wtf?" of putting a belt on him like that.
Actually my opinion is........we just got done watching 2 of the greatest performers in the history of wrestling in Austin and Rock and we expect that, when fact is those guys are rare very rare.

All you have to do is go back and look at who has mainevented in wrestling very few of them had all the tools.........Bret Hart is a revered maineventer.......today people would shit on him as boring and non charismatic.

There are wrestlers on the roster today that people think are giant turds that just 15-20 years ago would have been huge stars in the business......that's how quickly things change.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:04 AM   #38
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Where is RVD now? Benoit? JERICHO????
Benoit works Smackdown and is basically a WWE lifer now.......RVD is getting ready to leave, to do what who knows.......Jericho is basically retired from wrestling.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:09 AM   #39
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There are wrestlers on the roster today that people think are giant turds that just 15-20 years ago would have been huge stars in the business......that's how quickly things change.
You can argue that. I don't agree with it but I can see the argument. I don't think the main eventers of the 2 shows right now (Batista/Cena) would be anything 20 years ago. Maybe midcard.

That's what I see: a whole roster full of midcarders, with nobody on top.

That's not even going into the problems inherent with TNA, who literally books like they're a whole roster full of 20 versions of the same guy. And RVD (and I'm sure Sabu) will only murk those waters up even more.
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TNA doesn't know how to book......when you book everyone equal....no one gets over they don't get that.

Guys like Khali and Chris Masters would have made huge bank working with Hogan 20 years ago.......they just came around at the wrong time.

I think the WWE has several guys who can be mainevent players, it's just a matter of what you expect from a maineventer.......If you aren't the top guy you'll do some jobbing so at the start people have a hard time buying you......
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:16 AM   #41
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They need to get Paul Heyman back in the mix.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:17 AM   #42
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They need to get Paul Heyman back in the mix.
The ECW show has been better since he left..........Heyman was revolutionary a decade ago these days alot of his ideas are stale and don't translate....
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:19 AM   #43
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I think it's a shame Masters isn't more popular than he is (or, well, gets better heat). He's one of the few guys in the business now who's really genuinely passionate about wrestling. This is a childhood dream of his.

I hate his character, though, so I get why he's not bigger.

Actually - that may be the problem: the kind of guys who are breaking in now. A lot of times it's body builders and former athletes that the WWE is paying to train, rather than guys who legitimately want to be wrestlers, and are willing to work their way up the indies.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:22 AM   #44
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I think it's a shame Masters isn't more popular than he is (or, well, gets better heat). He's one of the few guys in the business now who's really genuinely passionate about wrestling. This is a childhood dream of his.

I hate his character, though, so I get why he's not bigger.

Actually - that may be the problem: the kind of guys who are breaking in now. A lot of times it's body builders and former athletes that the WWE is paying to train, rather than guys who legitimately want to be wrestlers, and are willing to work their way up the indies.
That's because........take a quick look at the indies.......if you are 6'1 and have any frame you look big.

They'd all look like little midgets on WWE TV........for as much as I like guys like Austin Aries who looks big on the indies, he'd look tiny as hell on WWE TV. Hell most of the TNA guys would look small in the WWE.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:26 AM   #45
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That's because........take a quick look at the indies.......if you are 6'1 and have any frame you look big.

They'd all look like little midgets on WWE TV........for as much as I like guys like Austin Aries who looks big on the indies, he'd look tiny as hell on WWE TV. Hell most of the TNA guys would look small in the WWE.
That is a big knock on WWE that a lot of people probably have. Vince likes to push Goliaths down peoples throats, even if they don't speak English, while guys like Benoit and Punk will remain role players (IC champs).
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