Football Who's a Franchise QB in the NFL? - Page 6

**BigRedChief** · 11-05-2010, 11:08 PM

Not going to try to define what is a "franchise" QB? Thats for you to decide. I'm just curious what others think. I think there are only 2 franchise QB's in the NFL. Peyton and Brady.

Some may be a future franchise QB like Ryan or Bradford. A Farve or McNabb type QB who maybe was one and is still playing is another catagory...again not going to define.

Hootie · 11-06-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

and are probably the only two guys who you could put on a team of random-picked 52 current NFL players and they'd probably go 9-7 at worst.

Disagree.

I don't think Tom Brady would have done jack shit without Bill Belichick...

He tripped into the perfect scenario...early success gave him a swagger that developed him into a superstar...

Manning would have been a superstar no matter what, anywhere...with anyone.

Manning could have been on the Chiefs or Rams the last few years when both teams were abysmal and he would have made them both playoff teams and Super Bowl contenders, by default...

Brady doesn't do that.

I'm not saying Brady isn't great...he's a hall of famer...no doubt.

But he's not in the same class as Peyton Manning.

Hootie · 11-06-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Does Cutler count as a franchise QB anymore? When he was with the Broncos, Broncos fans thought he was the next Elway. Since he's been with the Bears, he hasn't lived up to that hype.

He's an idiot.

He's like Jeff George version 2.0...

he makes too many dumbass decisions and turns the ball over in the red zone way too much...

Martz doesn't help...what a terrible coordinator he ended up being...can't adjust to anything...if he doesn't have an Orlando Pace/Willie Roaf type anchor...he can't run an offense...kills his QBs...

Orton > Cutler

The Broncos could have raped that deal had they not butchered all of their draft picks and wasted another one on Tim freaking Tebow.

Rams Fan · 11-06-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Manning could have been on the Chiefs or Rams the last few years when both teams were abysmal and he would have made them both playoff teams and Super Bowl contenders, by default...

Manning would not have taken the Rams to the playoffs. Their Defense was horrible the past 3 years, aging WRs and a horrible O-Line.

ChiefsCountry · 11-06-2010, 12:54 PM

Roethlisberger is so underrated on this board its comical. The dude is most clutch QB in the league, has two Lombardi's and is young enough for more.

Pioli Zombie · 11-06-2010, 02:23 PM

I agree totally with ChiefsCountry. Big Ben is the best clutch qb in football over the last 5 years.

Mr. Laz · 11-06-2010, 02:33 PM

too early to say on flacco,Bradford,Sanchez,Freeman

Favre USED to be

Eli Manning is ... just not a great one

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-06-2010, 02:37 PM

Peyton, Eli, Brady, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Brees, Ryan, Rodgers and Bradford were my franchise picks.

Favre WAS a FQB, but that was years ago.

Flacco hasn't proven to me that he's a "Franchise" guy. He's been ascending each year but he's not what I'd call franchise and he's hardly elite.

Freeman has been very impressive as has Stafford. But Stafford needs to stay healthy and Freeman just needs to continue to ascend. I think it's very likely both will reach "Franchise QB" status if they can stay healthy.

Sanchez has not been a FQB to date. He's 23 years old, so there's plenty of time left for his career to ascend but so far, he's been a younger version of Cassel.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-06-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Roethlisberger is so underrated on this board its comical. The dude is most clutch QB in the league, has two Lombardi's and is young enough for more.

Yep. However he didnt really earn the 1st one.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-06-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Disagree.

I don't think Tom Brady would have done jack shit without Bill Belichick...

He tripped into the perfect scenario...early success gave him a swagger that developed him into a superstar...

Manning would have been a superstar no matter what, anywhere...with anyone.

Manning could have been on the Chiefs or Rams the last few years when both teams were abysmal and he would have made them both playoff teams and Super Bowl contenders, by default...

Brady doesn't do that.

I'm not saying Brady isn't great...he's a hall of famer...no doubt.

But he's not in the same class as Peyton Manning.

Yes, we know you hate Brady and wanna have Manning's babies.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-06-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

His 4th actually...

Yeah, I forgot about the Falcons.

View Poll Results: Who's a franchise QB?
Peyton Manning	114	95.00%
Tom Brady	107	89.17%
Eli Manning	58	48.33%
Phillip Rivers	87	72.50%
Drew Breese	94	78.33%
Sam Bradford	50	41.67%
Matt Ryan	61	50.83%
Aaron Rodgers	87	72.50%
Ben Rothleisburger	88	73.33%
Joe Flacco	40	33.33%
Brett Farve	21	17.50%
Josh Freeman	28	23.33%
Mark Sanchez	21	17.50%
Matt Cassel	7	5.83%
Screw Gaz, I like Matt Stafford	16	13.33%
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11-05-2010, 11:08 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3019627 VARSITY	Who's a Franchise QB in the NFL? Not going to try to define what is a "franchise" QB? Thats for you to decide. I'm just curious what others think. I think there are only 2 franchise QB's in the NFL. Peyton and Brady. Some may be a future franchise QB like Ryan or Bradford. A Farve or McNabb type QB who maybe was one and is still playing is another catagory...again not going to define.
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11-06-2010, 12:54 PM	#79
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2198752	Roethlisberger is so underrated on this board its comical. The dude is most clutch QB in the league, has two Lombardi's and is young enough for more.
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	I agree totally with ChiefsCountry. Big Ben is the best clutch qb in football over the last 5 years.
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	too early to say on flacco,Bradford,Sanchez,Freeman Favre USED to be Eli Manning is ... just not a great one __________________
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11-06-2010, 02:37 PM	#82
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Peyton, Eli, Brady, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Brees, Ryan, Rodgers and Bradford were my franchise picks. Favre WAS a FQB, but that was years ago. Flacco hasn't proven to me that he's a "Franchise" guy. He's been ascending each year but he's not what I'd call franchise and he's hardly elite. Freeman has been very impressive as has Stafford. But Stafford needs to stay healthy and Freeman just needs to continue to ascend. I think it's very likely both will reach "Franchise QB" status if they can stay healthy. Sanchez has not been a FQB to date. He's 23 years old, so there's plenty of time left for his career to ascend but so far, he's been a younger version of Cassel.
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