2013 NFL Draft: Dion Jordan will visit the Kansas City Chiefs

[Messier]

Originally Posted by SNR

That's not why I don't like Dion Jordan, ****face.

Who, other than a QB could they take, and you'd say, that's not a bad pick?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Messier

Who, other than a QB could they take, and you'd say, that's not a bad pick?

In this draft?

Nobody.

Nobody is close to what Geno gives you in terms of potential and proven production/experience.

The only guys that are close is Jarvis Jones of Georgia, and he lacks the physical tools to dominate at the next level. (As I've stated several times, he's this years version of Jerry Hughes. Very instinctive and productive, but lacks the physical tools to be dominant at the next level.), and Barrett Jones of Alabama.

Jones was a three time first team All-American at three different positions on the offensive line and won the Outland Trophy his junior year at left tackle.

Everybody else is potential versus potential plus production.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Messier

Who, other than a QB could they take, and you'd say, that's not a bad pick?

The entire draft sucks outside of the QBs when it comes to the top picks. Dion Jordan is relying on his potential more than anything. He's kind of like Dontari Poe in that regard, only not nearly as bad.

The difference is Dontari Poe was taken at #11 overall. Jordan will be going at #1 overall.

If Dorsey and Reid are that stupid about Geno, they should have done a better job playing up the versatility and value of the pick instead of bashing the QBs publicly, hemming and hawing about how difficult of a decision they have, leaking out Branden Albert trade rumors, etc. It's pretty necessary to trade out of the pick if they want to go for a non-QB they really like. But... nope. Trading out would have been difficult anyway, but they certainly didn't help themselves in that matter.

So in their effort to avoid picking Geno, they entrenched themselves deeper into Geno's bosom. Now they have three options: pull out a miracle trade down, take Geno, or look ****ing stupid.

By the way, if you're asking about non QBs I like, it comes down to Fisher, Milliner, and Floyd in terms of players I think will be that "surefire" (god I hate that word) pros. Everyone else has inflated value due to the cum and vomit around them.

This draft is all about potential in the top 10. Sucks, but it's true.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Messier

I'm assuming you watched a lot of Joeckel, can I ask why in your opinion he's being overhyped by everyone? I'm not even kidding, because many here hate the thought of Jockel, and at first I thought it was just pro Geno backlash, but it seems people here really think he's mediocre. I guess I want to know if you can think of anyone outside CP that shares that thought, because Joeckel is going to be drafted in the top ten, if not by us, someone will take him. What is every scout, every draftpert, and GM missing. You say he did poorly against better competition. Wouldn't that stick out like a sore thumb in his evaluation?

He fared very well in a lot of matchups. As I said, I think he is a good player...but he got beat a lot in those Alabama and Florida games.

I watched a lot of A&M ball and Joeckel is a good left tackle prospect. He can mirror good pass rushers because he has good feet a d is a natural hip striker and knee bender. If we didn't already have a left tackle and had a quarterback, I wouldn't hesitate to select him or Fisher high in the draft.

That's the problem though, we have a guy with similar (if not superior) tools and has already played at a high level in the NFL.

The first pick in the draft is a guy that needs to impact wins and losses and gives you a cornerstone to build a superbowl team around.

A guy the other team has to gameplan for.

A guy that should be able to win matchups against the premier talents the NFL offers.

Replacing a pro bowl quality left tackle with the first pick in the draft would be completely wasting the selection.