Chiefs Redoing the 1989 Draft - Page 4

Crush · 01-14-2013, 04:36 PM

I have read on here more than once that the hiring of Reid and Dorsey is akin to the hirings of Carl and Marty. Hypothetically, let us say that the new regime has the No. 1 pick of the 1989 draft. Who do you take? I am curious to see the results. I want to see who truly appreciates and understands the value of the QB position.

All five poll options were taken in the Top Five.

ChiefsCountry · 01-14-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

That defense, that running game, those were the reasons why they went into the playoffs year after year.

And Aikman is why they won in the playoffs year after year.

Molitoth · 01-14-2013, 07:26 PM

Uhhh Barry Sanders, but I'm biased because he's my fav player of all time.

Ebolapox · 01-14-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Heres a draft that might stir better discussion. 1992.

Colts had top 2 picks and took a DE and Linebacker. Emtman and Coryatt. The best available QB that year was Klingler.

What would you have done if you held the #1 in 1992?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_NFL_Draft

hindsight is a bitch, eh?

david klingler was taken from the run-n-shoot offense, which was crazier than the spread of its day. college scouting, especially of QBs, was MUCH less advanced. reading defenses wasn't as important. gaudy stats actually turned heads then as long as you had good size.

hell, the hindsight choice isn't obvious either. a ****ing fullback went in the top ten? (touchdown tommy vardell)

Ebolapox · 01-14-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He was an ABSOLUTE SURE THING coming out. The best tackle prospect EVER.

roids did his body good.

DJ's left nut · 01-14-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Admittedly, my initial gut reaction when I see Barry Sanders in any poll is to pick Barry Sanders. I mean, c'mon, he's Barry Sanders. Honestly, I didn't even see Aikman's name until after I voted.

I can definitely see a logic in picking Aikman here, even though ... I mean, c'mon, it's Barry Sanders. But if it's 1989 and you've got a west african nightmare in the backfield, and if you have no benefit of hindsight, yeah, you take Aikman.

I went with Sanders.

Okoye was overrated, so was Aikman. If you'd have given Sanders to Marty, he'd have spent a decade raping faces worse than Charles ever has.

Meanwhile Marty would've turned Aikman into a dink and dunker.

People forget how innovative Jimmy Johnson was. Aikman in virtually any other organization would've been forgettable, IMO. Whereas Sanders was in the absolute worst possible situation for him and still kicked ass.

The 90s Chiefs with Marty and Sanders would've won a couple of titles. It was an era where you could win with a running game and a defense if you actually had an elite running game. We had the corpse of Allen and overrated video-game creations like Okoye.

Ebolapox · 01-14-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Not when you have a young Christian Okoye in the backfield. It would have been a pretty easy choice if your the Chiefs in 1989 and had the #1 pick.

Didn't need a left tackle you had John Alt in his prime. Didn't need a cornerback with Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross. Didn't need a running back with Okoye.

Steve DeBerg is your quarterback. The choice is pretty simple IMO. You go with Troy Aikman.

what makes it more obvious?

Troy Aikman went to UCLA. I'm a bit shocked that carl peterson didn't trade up for him, he had a boner for UCLA guys

Molitoth · 01-14-2013, 08:08 PM

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Okoye was overrated

No doubt.

Spott · 01-14-2013, 08:09 PM

Barry Sanders and Okoye in the same backfield would have been pretty interesting, especially with the OL we had back in the 90's.

**Rain Man** · 01-14-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I went with Sanders.

Okoye was overrated, so was Aikman. If you'd have given Sanders to Marty, he'd have spent a decade raping faces worse than Charles ever has.

Meanwhile Marty would've turned Aikman into a dink and dunker.

People forget how innovative Jimmy Johnson was. Aikman in virtually any other organization would've been forgettable, IMO. Whereas Sanders was in the absolute worst possible situation for him and still kicked ass.

The 90s Chiefs with Marty and Sanders would've won a couple of titles. It was an era where you could win with a running game and a defense if you actually had an elite running game. We had the corpse of Allen and overrated video-game creations like Okoye.

Mmmmmm, OKAY! Okay, I'm in! If I can get Barry Sanders, I'm in. Sanders and Okoye would've been a blast. Those two and Earl Campbell are the three most entertaining runners ever.

(However, without the benefit of hindsight I'd still take Aikman in the #1 spot.)

**chefsos** · 01-14-2013, 08:21 PM

I must say that I'm absolutely shocked that more people didn't respond, "DT all day, every day". I'd have taken Barry Sanders, too, under the parameters given but with the hindsight that's not actually allowed in this question I still wonder if the '90s defense becomes anything like it did without Thomas.

EDIT: And now I look at the poll results and see DT is tied for the lead...

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He was an ABSOLUTE SURE THING coming out. The best tackle prospect EVER.

If you believed John Madden.

I knew he was a roided out phony.

Most people, outside the NFL, knew about it. ****, I did and was in Lawrence at the time.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Those Chiefs teams were built just exactly like the Cowboys.

We had the RB, we had the maulers on the line, we had the defense.

The thing we didn't have was the QB.

The choice here is obvious.

The Chiefs had the RB for about 3 season after he was drafted. Them Marty began his draft/free agency rampage on running backs.

And I'm sorry, Aikman wouldn't have done dick under Joe Pendry.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

If the Chiefs take Aikman in that draft he busts just as hard as Blackledge did. The Cowboys surrounded Aikman with a TON of first-round talent. The Chiefs were focused on Defense those days. Aikman would have been horrible in Red.

Questo

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2013, 08:29 PM

Jimmy Johnson so believed in Troy Aikman that he used his 1990 first round pick on QB Steve Walsh.

Think about THAT.

redfan · 01-14-2013, 08:36 PM

I'm just a sentimental old ****, I guess. I'm still picking DT. So much poundage of Elway.

View Poll Results: With the No. 1 pick in the 1989 Draft, who do you think the Chiefs should take?
Troy Aikman	30	37.97%
Tony Mandarich	4	5.06%
Barry Sanders	12	15.19%
Derrick Thomas	31	39.24%
Deion Sanders	2	2.53%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

01-14-2013, 04:36 PM
Crush Amateur Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $5157091	Redoing the 1989 Draft I have read on here more than once that the hiring of Reid and Dorsey is akin to the hirings of Carl and Marty. Hypothetically, let us say that the new regime has the No. 1 pick of the 1989 draft. Who do you take? I am curious to see the results. I want to see who truly appreciates and understands the value of the QB position. All five poll options were taken in the Top Five.
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chefsos Fifty eight sixty two... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Felton, DE Casino cash: $8497676	I must say that I'm absolutely shocked that more people didn't respond, "DT all day, every day". I'd have taken Barry Sanders, too, under the parameters given but with the hindsight that's not actually allowed in this question I still wonder if the '90s defense becomes anything like it did without Thomas. EDIT: And now I look at the poll results and see DT is tied for the lead...
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